--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > Coincidentally, King Tony's latest youtube offerings touch on this topic. > > Whaaa! Where's the crown? And what's with the tan, he's supposed > to be a monk! He looks like Don Johnson's stand-in for the new > Miami vice movie.
I used to complain about the crowns, thinking they would put people off but now they are gone there's nothing to distract from what they say. Maybe the crowns weren't so bad, at least you knew you were dealing with something odd... > The talk was rubbish BTW, I was with him util he started going on > about QP being justification for all religions being true and then > into his usual shpiel about ved in the human physiology which makes > absolutely no sense whatsoever as far as I can see. Still, at least > he's happy! > > If they would just say "The subatomic world seems weird to us and > everything is interconnected but no-one knows what that means but > there's no evidence it affects the macro world except in that we > can use it to run computers etc. But our belief is that the universe > is a giant ball of cosmic consciousness that we can influence to create peace > (but feel shy about demonstrating adequately) and this > unified field means astrology and prayers and all the other stuff we've got > to sell you is true" then I could respect them a bit. > But they don't, they go on like it's all done and dusted when it isn't. > > I'll stick to proper working physicists like in the quantum computer > news I posted the other day. Far out stuff and real as real can be. > > > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=17u5xrTdSJc&feature=g-all-u > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryx1iz1ZlSM&feature=g-all-u > > > > L. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" <shanti2218411@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sam Harris in a blog on consciousness said the following: > > > > > > The problem, however, is that no evidence for consciousness exists in the > > > physical world.[6] Physical events are simply mute as to whether it is > > > "like something" to be what they are. The only thing in this universe > > > that attests to the existence of consciousness is consciousness itself; > > > the only clue to subjectivity, as such, is subjectivity. Absolutely > > > nothing about a brain, when surveyed as a physical system, suggests that > > > it is a locus of experience. Were we not already brimming with > > > consciousness ourselves, we would find no evidence of it in the physical > > > universe�nor would we have any notion of the many experiential states > > > that it gives rise to. The painfulness of pain, for instance, puts in an > > > appearance only in consciousness. And no description of C-fibers or > > > pain-avoiding behavior will bring the subjective reality into view > > > > > > > > > Consciousness IMHO has not been "explained" in particular by referring to > > > brain/material processes. What has been demonstrated is that brain > > > processes and consciousness are related in someway.Exactly how they are > > > related is fundamentally a mystery. > > > > > >
