> > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Which logically means this theoritical "Observer" has to > > > > > exist outside the bubble universe. > > > > > > > > --- "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > IMHO, this Observer is both within and outside this universe. This > > > > could be the scenario if the multiverse theory is ever proved. > > > > > > > > > > --- "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > Not really, the multiverse wouldn't have formed until the first > > > definite particles appeared about 3 mins after the big bang. It > > > was all a bit chaotic before that, all the forces unified - that > > > sort of thing, so any observer wouldn't have existed either. > > > > > > > --- "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > You don't understand the Multiverse theories. Assuming an infinite > > universe, there are an infinite number of exact copies of our own > > universe, as well as an infinite number of slightly "off" copies as well as > > an infinite number of radically different universes, all existing > > simultaneously *somewhere* in THIS universe. The problem is that "universe" > > has two distinct meanings in the above sentence: > > > > our "universe," and others like it, are local, but extremely large (by our > > standards) conglomerations of space-time in a certain configuration, which > > we believe came about after/due-to something called "the Big Bang." > > > > The "Type I Metaverse" is merely the infinite expanse of space-time in > > which all "local" universes happen to exist. > > > > > > And "observer," in Hagelin's cosmology, is anything that collapses the wave > > function, not just some cosmic uber-entity. Now, Hagelin likely believes, > > as do I, that there is an emergent property of the totality of these > > observers throughout any and all of the metaverses that has its own > > consciousness, but what that is like is impossible to say. > > > > L. > > > > --- "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote: > > Lawson, > > Your understanding of the multiverse is different from what Michio Kaku is > telling. He states that the multiverse is a conglomeration of separate > universe bubbles floating in an ocean of nothing. In MMY speak, the ocean of > nothing is equivalent to the Unified Field. > > It appears that your model of the universe is similar to what Alan Guth is > theorizing (Eternal Inflation Theory). > > Nonetheless, here's an interesting lecture by Leonard Susskind entitled, "The > World as a Hologram": > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY > > Based on my understanding of this lecture, it would be possible to see other > galaxies, perhaps even universes, that are beyond our observable horizon. > > Also, it could be possible to decipher the information from the microwave > background. In other words, scientists could decipher what happened at the > instant of the Big Bang, and maybe even what happened before the Bang. > > You guys should watch the clip. You may have other insights about Susskind's > proposal. > > JR >
If the Fourth spatial dimension exists, our "gross local universe" could be floating inside a higher subtle universe made of subtle particles. The "dark matter" could be astral particles inside "Level 2 higher parallel universe". So the gravity of the dark matter seeps through to evolve galaxies in our local universe? If true, the higher subtle universe could be floating in an ocean of nothing. Not too much deviation from MMY speak? There might even be a "Level 3 Causal universe" aka Paramahansa Yogananda.?!!
