--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory > Goff" > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > TurquoiseB > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, but if God is well read, and has delved > > into > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heisenberg Principle, He'd know that to > > observe > > > is > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > influence, so out of fairness He wouldn't be > > > > > > > watching. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, but if S/H/We weren't watching, nothing > > would > > > > > > happen :- > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when there is no watcher/watchee, nothing > > > > > happens :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But how would you know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Self-evident ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stepping outside the three gunas -- so that Self > > (observer) > > > > and > > > > > > All- > > > > > > > that-is are (observed) not different -- is analogous to > > > > looking > > > > > at > > > > > > > the torus from outside, and seeing Vishnu coalesce from > > the > > > > > outer > > > > > > > shell into the base of the inner double-cone (as > Sattva); > > > > Brahma > > > > > > > rotate as the singularity at the center of the double- > cone > > > (as > > > > > > > Rajas); and Shiva disperse at the top of the double- cone > > > > > outwards > > > > > > > into the outer shell (as Tamas) -- and yet, because one > is > > > no > > > > > > longer > > > > > > > involved in the > > > > > > > movie(s) within this Brahman-torus, nothing actually > > > happens; > > > > > the > > > > > > > whole thing is in stasis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might be akin to the Work of Byron Katie, wherein > > when > > > we > > > > > > > inquire into the stories of our suffering, we may > realize > > > that > > > > > we > > > > > > > have been projecting all of it -- resolving it back into > > the > > > > > > radiant > > > > > > > clarity and loving fullness of our own emptiful not- > > > > happening :- > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > So why does Vishnu blend with Brahma, and Brahma blend > with > > > > Shiva, > > > > > > but Shiva and Vishnu are absolutely distinct from one > > another? > > > > > > > > > > Great question! I used to ask this about Sattva and Tamas, > > which > > > > > were always held to be total opposites and unmixable. I > never > > > > really > > > > > got this until seeing their polar functions in the Torus -- > > and > > > > > understanding them as analogous to magnetic poles does help. > > > Even > > > > if > > > > > we see Sattva in its conventional sense as Light and Tamas > as > > > > Dark, > > > > > though, it really does make sense. However, it's interesting > > > that > > > > > Siva/Tamas/the Black Hole is (from the point of view outside > > the > > > > > Torus anyhow) actually dispersing outward, rather than > > spiraling > > > > > inward, and Vishnu/Sattva/the White Hole is spiraling > inward, > > > > rather > > > > > than dispersing outward... > > > > > > > > Yes, perfect sense! And paradoxical with regard to the 'story' > I > > > > always wanted to tell myself, and even my cognition of > Vishnu's > > > > vibration recently as very sattvic, but I digress... > > > > > > > > > > > In other words, what does that transition on the outside > of > > > the > > > > > > torus, between the ultimate decay of Shiva, and the > growing > > > > > > pregnancy of Vishnu look like or represent? it appears to > be > > a > > > > gap > > > > > > of undifferentiated potential; Absolute stillness. No > gunas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is there something there? > > > > > > > > > > FWIW I see a golden ring occupying that gap, with spokes to > > that > > > > > ring emanating from the singularity/Brahma-point :-) > > > > > > > > Oh right! I remember now you mentioning this awhile back, > before > > I > > > > was able to see it. Now it makes perfect sense that the golden > > > ring > > > > would be there. Nothing else quite fits, does it? Ah, so not > > quite > > > a > > > > gap, which given Vishnu and Shiva didn't quite resolve the > > > > vibrational qualities of each...though the golden ring with > > spokes > > > > to Brahma does! Hmmm, thank you again! > > > > > > Yes, it would appear to correlate to that golden quality of No- > > > space, No-time identity with the "Solar Angel" which one might > > take > > > to be Brahma -- incidentally, Bentov also spoke of this fusion > > with > > > one's Solar Angel on that same Sidhis-prep course, perhaps a > year > > or > > > so before I came across the phenomenon:-) > > > > Fusion with one's Solar Angel? Is that the source of divine love > and > > wisdom that we connect to once we have died into Brahman? > > The "we" who dies into Brahman actually appears to *be* the Solar > Angel, or the Witness, or the I AM idea of limiting individuation; > the source of divine love and wisdom appears to be that same Solar > Angel resurrected into acknowledgment its true (emptiful) > relationship with the Wholeness, or Wholeness acknowledging its > ability to contract into a Krishna-point of infinite bliss as > limitless individuation; THAT AM I :-) > > I don't > > know where it is coming from, though it is instantly accessible > and > > recognizable- effortlessly so. > > Yes! :-)
Thank you for stating this. Experientially, this makes perfect sense now. As I mentioned, once all of my stories died, I have had this crystal clarity in my heart and mind. It feels like me, only it is so powerful. Then when you mentioned fusion with the Solar Angel, I was not able to understand it as part of myself. Now it is easy to see. It is as you expressed the limitless individuation, as the maturing or more fully appreciated aspect of Brahman, the Krishna point value, that is a new experience. An observation: Back in the old "time and space" days, I always knew that I had the ability to figure stuff out quickly, but my world view was so neccessarily constrained in order to protect my itty bitty self, that it took much thinking and effort and cross-checking to reach a point of intellectual clarity. Now, with the small self dead (slaughtered by Shiva, yes?), I can have access to practically unlimited knowledge, nearly effortlessly. Any effort involved is that of framing the issue to be solved and manually collecting the data. The subsequent assembly and resolution happens in a flash. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
