--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this mimicry comment is sort of ridiculous. > > When I was around MMY in the 70's, I wasn't comparing him to anyone > else. Nor did I have any expectations about what it would feel like > to be in his "presence". And yet, being around him, there was a > palpable difference in bliss level, wakefulness of consciousness, > etc. It wasn't even necessary to be in the same room with him, so > Gerbal's comments about the intensity of personality of someone > don't seem to have much to do with it either. > > Does this have anything to do with whether or not MMY was/is a good > teacher? Or had/has good intentions for his students and for the > world? I don't see why these would necessarily be connected.
We probably know one another, as I was constantly around MMY in the early to mid-70's. I observed that some people simply could not leave the room where MMY was whilst others could not get away fast enough. His presence was like flypaper to some and vinegar to others. Some seemed to avoid his presence, others couldn't get enough of it. My own feeling was that I didn't feel much of anything around him except an undercurrent of intensity. But when I left the room, then I began to feel all churned up (for want of a better way to put it). There was energy around him, whether it was him or the room, I am not sure, but in one-on-one meetings with him, even quite long ones, there wasn't the same "aftershock". Similarly, the intensity was of a different quality, as well. Was he more relaxed or was the level of expectation in a roomfull what made the difference? I have no way of knowing. There's a lot to be said about 'sangha', the gathering of the faithful, even when its a mixed bag of poly-focused faithfulnesses. That kind of energy is very special, but I don't have any idea how to say any more than that. We learn from the guru/teacher. When we start attributing our expectations to the guru/teacher, we have begun to miss the point of his being. Some very good teachers, by my own definition, of course, have discouraged this sort of behaviour. Their purpose was our development and that was the end of that. -- In my time around MMY, I think he began to, in a sense, give up. It was a kind of "OK, you lot, if you want it your way, you might as well have it, you aren't catching on, anyway." >From what I saw (and I saw that there were groups with apparently different experiences of what they saw and agreed upon) he/MMY had expectations that the West would take up TM, be happy and give him lots and lots of adulation. This didn't happen and I saw him cave to the mundane wishes of the paying punters. I think that that's too over the top, but there may be some minor grains of significance in it. G ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
