The difference betwx American and European interviews is interesting. Oprah's interested in whether TM is coercive and a cult. The European interview goes to context of whether TM is a sect and about a leadership of fanaticism. Americans are keyed by coercive Jonestown and Mormon type of cults while the long European experience is a language about fanaticism.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <babajii_99@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > You too miss MMY's point: he couldn't possibly have been perfect, according > > to the theory he espoused. > > > > L > > He was only claiming to be as perfect as the people in the movement wanted > him to be... > When I was with him, doing video taping in 1975, I saw him as being much more > flexible with what was perfect or not perfect... > For example, during some of the talks by the scientist present at the Physics > Conference in Dec. 1975, Maharishi would go into a deep Samadhi just sitting > on the couch with eyes closed... > Almost dissappearing into the Silence'... > > His perfection for me, was not so much what he did or didn't do... > But was more on the level of how I felt in his presence... > > I felt that he carried the silence of Guru Dev with him, as he had devoted > his life to that revival of vedic knowledge...and because he had intiated so > many people and then had taught so many initiators who taught so many > people... > All from a guy who stood all of 5 ft. talll...and who studied with a man who > virtually spent all of his life in Silence, with little or no money or > possessions... > > Jai Guru Dev > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <babajii_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Great Sage couldn't possibly? > > > > > > > > One thing I noted after listening to the SCI tapes was that according > > > > to MMY's theory, it was *impossible* for someone to be fully > > > > enlightened because the consciousness of the world wouldn't support it. > > > > > > > > When I pointed this out to a TM teacher, he insisted that MMY's theory > > > > didn't apply to MMY or Gurudev. > > > > > > > > > > > > L. > > > > > > > This is typical brainwashing.... > > > Not much different than what Goebbels did... > > > That's the whole point, I was attempting to make here... > > > > > > For the people who were on the German side during the WwII... > > > And including the Spanish, Italian and Japanese Dictator Tyrantical > > > Facists... > > > These people feel very familiar with that type of propaganda, and that > > > type of 'Perfect Leader'...which is the title 'Der Fuerer...the perfect > > > leader...of a superior race.... > > > > > > When the American Democratic Model dissappointed Maharishi, he fell back > > > on hand picking leadership from that soul grouping in German Elite Forces > > > during the Nazi Era... > > > > > > Jerry Jarvis certainly did not fit into this mold...at all... > > > My theory on Jerry is that he was a very high soul in his last life and > > > this one, and served as a major General during WWII on the American side > > > of the action... > > > > > > According to Maharishi's SCI theory, it is more based on 'Perfect > > > Self-Referral Consciousness' as the only requirement for 'Perfect Right > > > Action'... > > > It has nothing to do with what is observed 'Outside' by an outside > > > observer, because the outside observer....observes only from his/her > > > level of consciousness... > > > > > > So, if one is very bond by 'Sex' then one would see 'Great Imperfection' > > > with an 'Enlightened Sage' who calls himself, Maharishi, and who studied > > > with a life-long celebate, Swami Brahmandanda Saraswati... > > > > > > But, that was an internal reference point which Maharhishi was going > > > by...his own self-referral consciousness... > > > > > > Which allowd him to come up with the raja paraphenalia...etc... > > > > > > It allowed him to rebel against the Americans by sending the Right > > > Wingers in the run things in America...starting in 1977.... > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > >
