--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Judy. Great suggestions, in general, for "internet" 
> research.

I should add that Barry isn't wrong to be concerned
about bad science reporting; it's a real and long-
standing problem.

But his investigations are significantly sloppier and
lazier than the reporting he castigates, as his post
on West Nile virus demonstrates.

He had a couple of good examples of bad reporting in a
recent post--but one of them, by a writer whom he roundly
condemned as "the worst offender in the United States"
(Mercola), had written another article that Barry had
cited in a post a couple days prior as having exposed
major flaws in research on cancer.

And he never noticed. He's just too inattentive and too
careless to be a useful source of information. He's
much more interested in making impressive-sounding
pronouncements of his own than in getting his facts
straight.



>  From: authfriend <jstein@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] How to properly evaluate science reporting (was: Re: 
> Bad Science Reporting, con)
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > OK, because I'm on a bit of a soapbox about this subject
> > lately, I have to continue to preach.
> > 
> > This evening, sitting at my cafe relaxing, I foolishly
> > clicked on the HuffPost and found this article:
> > 
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/west-nile-virus-cases-increase_n_1822056.html
> 
> In fact, it's an Associated Press article, not one written
> for HuffPo.
> 
> Always a good idea, if you have any reason to be suspicious
> of a news article, to check to see whether it's from one of
> the agencies like AP. Not that they always get everything
> right, but you look pretty foolish blaming an AP article
> on HuffPo's writers.
> 
> Another good idea in this situation is to do a Web search
> on the headline. If you get a lot of hits from different
> media outlets, you know <duh> that it isn't unique to the
> one you found it on. (Google has 108,000 hits on it.)
> 
> Still another good idea is to do a topical search and see
> if any of the more reliable outlets have a similar story
> of their own. In this case, for example, the New York Times
> has one reported by its own journalist:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/health/west-nile-outbreak-shaping-up-as-worst-ever-in-us-authorities-say.html?hp
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/8cfe49b
> 
> One more tip: If the article is reporting on what some big
> institution has said and you're dubious that the reporting
> is accurate, go to the institution's own Web site and see
> if you can find its perspective on the topic, then compare
> with the article. In this case, you'd want to look at the
> CDC's Web site, where indeed you'll find that the CDC is
> very concerned about the recent outbreaks:
> 
> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/index.htm
> 
> This link was even given in the AP article on HuffPo.
> 
> Lots of other material on the site on West Nile, which the
> CDC considers a significant public health threat.
> 
> > Let's look into this, shall we?
> > 
> > I am NOT trying to knock the CDC. They do important and
> > valuable work. I am knocking the reporters who took what
> > they said and tried to turn it into something else.
> 
> The reporters did not try to turn what the CDC said into
> something else. If you want to disagree with the AP article,
> you're going to have to disagree with the CDC.
> 
> > There has been -- according to this article -- an "alarming"
> > increase in outbreaks of the West Nile virus. That is, 1118
> > illnesses have been reported this year, as opposed to a 
> > "normal" year, in which only 300 would have been reported.
> > 
> > "Drill down" on this statistic for a moment.
> 
> No, because you've missed the most important fact about
> the statistic.
> 
> It's not the total for the year. It's the total for the
> year only through the third week in August. The West Nile
> virus season has just gotten started. It will continue
> through September at least; and the rate of new cases is
> expected to *increase* until then.
> 
> > It means -- given that the current population of the US is
> > 311,591,917 people -- that instead of an infinitesimally 
> > small percentage of them being at risk of contracting this
> > disease, a slightly higher but still infinitesimally small 
> > number of them are at risk. This is what real science calls 
> > the difference between relative risk and absolute risk. 
> > 
> > Now let's get to the Good Part. The reporter in question
> > didn't adequately define what is meant by "illness." In
> > the article itself, he says that "Only about one in five 
> > infected people get sick. One in 150 infected people will 
> > develop severe symptoms including neck stiffness, 
> > disorientation, coma and paralysis." This reduces the 
> > infinitesimal risk to even more infinitesimal levels.
> > 
> > WTF?
> 
> Gosh, wonder why the CDC is so concerned, then? Maybe
> you should think about doing just a *little* more
> digging.
> 
> > It's almost as if someone wants to sell an article to
> > HuffPost by *creating panic* about an issue that does 
> > not really deserve to be panicked about, or at least
> > not yet. 
> 
> Of course, nobody sold the article to HuffPo, nor was it
> written to create panic.
> 
> Hmm, and there's even a video accompanying the AP article
> on HuffPo in which a physician from NYU Medical Center
> explains the current threat (referring to it as "alarming")
> and suggests preventive measures.
> 
> Bottom line, Barry, you didn't do your homework. You
> leaped to incorrect conclusions without doing even the
> most minimal checking.
> 
> You won't read this, so you're unlikely to do any better
> next time. But hopefully FFL readers will now be aware
> that you are not the knowledgable authority you pretend
> to be on science reporting.
> 
> > Just sayin'...
>


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