--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" fintlewoodlewix@ > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> > wrote: > > > > > http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-fligh\ > ts-in.html > > > > > > It's just a shame that they seem to have stopped just before > > > the invention of cinema. > > > > I am so glad that I didn't offer my wordy response before you nailed > everything > > I could have said in just sixteen words! > > Just to pour gasoline on already-roaring flames, and to save > a certain someone from bringing it up in an attempt to > demonize me :-),
Barry has never been demonized by me for reporting his experience of seeing Lenz levitate. Bad start to an otherwise unusually honest and thoughtful post. I shall > weigh in on the subject of levitation from a unique point of view. Other > than Nabby, whose credibility I submit is in the same ballpark as Rush > Limbaugh's or Paul Ryan's, I think I'm the only person here who has > claimed to have witnessed real, hang-there-in-mid-air levitation. > > And I have. Not once, but dozens of times, over a period of 14 years. > And it wasn't only me. Often I was one of a group of 200-500 students > watching the guy do this, in various locations, ranging from out in the > desert in the middle of the night to the Los Angeles Convention Center > to Carnegie Hall. In those environments, Rama - Frederick Lenz didn't > hop on his butt like a frog, he just lifted gently up off of the sofa or > the sand he was sitting on or standing on, and hovered there in mid-air > in exactly the way that a brick doesn't. For extended periods of time -- > minutes, not seconds. > > That said, I can tell you nothing whatsoever about the nature of what it > was that I saw other than I and others saw it. > > I do not know whether video or movie cameras trained on the guy as he > lifted off would have captured it; I strongly suspect that they would > not have. If I had to speculate, I would suspect that the phenomenon we > witnessed was -- if it truly existed -- taking place on an alternate > level of reality that might not have been captured by technology on this > level of reality. > > I am equally comfortable with the notion that it didn't really exist at > all, but that brings up more unanswerable questions. I don't know about > you, but I have a harder time with the notion that someone can hypnotize > 200-500 people at a time into seeing the same thing -- *without ever > pre-announcing what it was that they were going to see* -- less > believable than that something was actually happening. Something else. > > WHAT that something else was, I have no idea. > > Do I feel somewhat uncomfortable saying this? You betcha. I share almost > all of Curtis and salyavin's skepticism about such things. But I really > *did* see this shit. Over and over and over, for an extended period of > time. > > Am I supposed to *deny* that I saw it, or come up with some convenient > skeptic's "explanation" for what it was I and hundreds of others saw? > That, to me, would be the "easy path," a cop-out. > > I *did* see it. I have NO FUCKING IDEA what exactly it was that I saw, > only that I saw it. Many times. > > Lemme tell you, that is a great deal harder to live with than > those who think that witnessing levitation would be a Good > Thing That Would Make Their Incarnation might think. And bad ending. But we can and should appreciate what comes in the middle.
