Barry is being compelled by some strange self-
destructive impulse to behave like a brainless
buffoon.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Just for fun, given Judy's claim of being offended by
> anything less than total historical accuracy...  :-)

I never made any such claim.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@>
> wrote:
> >
> > And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
> > about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
> > her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
> > she has gone insane with grief.
> >
> > Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
> >
> > There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
> > political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
> > thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
> > other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
> > kills himself.
> >
> > The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
> > century Scotland.
> 
> First, this is inaccurate. The opera is based on Sir Walter
> Scott's novel "The Bride of Lammermoor." Scott at one
> point *claimed* that it was based on historical fact, but
> that seems not to have been true. From Wikipedia:

Actually, if you check out Wikipedia on "The Bride of
Lammermoor," you'll find that the novel, albeit
fictional, is closely modeled on the historical events.
The only area of real uncertainty historically is
exactly what happened in the bridal chamber on the
couple's wedding night:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_of_Lammermoor

Barry didn't give a link for what he quoted. That's
because he had to go rather far afield to find anything
on Wikipedia that called in question any of the historical
basis for the opera:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscount_Stair

<snip>
> Second, now that Judy's description of the opera as
> being based on "real events" has been shown to be...
> uh...less than factual,

The opera "Lucia di Lammermoor" certainly takes some
liberties with the plot of the novel, but given that
the novel is fairly accurate historically, it's entirely
reasonable to say the opera is based on real events.
("Based on" does not imply 100 percent historical
accuracy, but Barry knew that.)

The point in context, of course, is the subjugation and
oppression of women, specifically here with regard to
arranged marriages.

> can we expect her anytime soon
> to rag on it? That's what she did for the movie she never
> bothered to see when she found out that it was less than
> 100% historically accurate, after all.  :-)
> 
> Will she post a nasty putdown of the opera, claiming
> that either Sir Walter Scott or Gaetano Donizetti were
> "Christian bigots" trying to misrepresent true history?

Christianity came into this where, exactly?

(Anybody who doesn't understand why Barry's contorted
effort here is laughable--even if he were correct about
the historical issues, which he isn't--let me know, and
I'll be happy to explain.)


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