--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" > > > > > > > <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > One thing we know, khazana: psychology and psychiatry have > > > > > > > > penetrated the mystique of mental illness. Two thousand years > > > > > > > > ago, God (as Jesus) seemed to indicate it was caused by > > > > > > > > demons; well we know he was wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do? Then you changed your mind rather abruptly, one > > > > > > > might say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Right, the 25-plus years it took him to do it is just the > > > > > > blink of an eye, isn't it, khazana? > > > > > > > > > > What are you talking about? Not even a month ago he defended the > > > > > existence of demons. I am of course referring to what Robin wrote > > > > > above, and not what you imagine he wrote. > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > It is actually just a link I share about a subject that is I > > > > > > > think interesting, and could well explain a certain set of > > > > > > > behaviors that can be observed here as well, that of strong > > > > > > > mood-swings for example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Splitting in BPD includes a switch between idealizing and > > > > > > > demonizing others (absolute good or love versus absolute > > > > > > > evil or hate with no middle term)." from Wikipedia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mood-swings can have many, many different causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > People who attempt to bring in mental illness on this forum > > > > > > > are always persons who are using that as a weapon to protect > > > > > > > themselves against the challenge that person or persons poses > > > > > > > to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may assume so, but may be some people just try to find > > > > > > > out the truth. They don't need to be hostile. > > > > > > > > > > > > The circumstances under which mental illness on this forum > > > > > > are brought up indicates that it is virtually always a > > > > > > function of hostility, not wanting to "find out the truth." > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > Starbucks invitation still stands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look, I wouldn't mind if it was close by. But I think that > > > > > > > you should have understanding if people who have been hurt > > > > > > > by you in the past, resist meeting you. In this case, > > > > > > > challenging them, or putting any kind of psychological > > > > > > > pressure on them would surely be detrimental to your purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > He's done neither. It's an invitation, an offer, to anyone > > > > > > who genuinely wants to know whether he has changed. > > > > > > > > > > Yet, he posted it in the form of a challenge, and that is very > > > > > inappropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's a guy gotta do to please you, khazana? > > > > > > Just be normal HERE. > > > > > > > Robin offered a friendly invitation to prove he is a normal human > > > > being. > > > > > > To whom? Obviously I am not in question. I am living in a different > > > continent and have only marginal interest in all of this. I base my > > > judgments on what I read here, based and backed up by my experience of a > > > lifetime of meeting all kinds of people, crazy and sane. > > > > > > > Why are you are choosing to see this as a challenge? > > > > > > What's the point in trying to 'prove' anything at all, especially to > > > people who were harmed once? Don't you see where they may perceive the > > > danger? The very harm was in those 'confrontations'. So, Raunchy, be > > > realistic, how would those people feel, who were once manipulated, when > > > they where asked to meet the man who obviously manipulated them, because > > > he needed to tell them something 'very important', and that would be that > > > he has changed? Why can't he just say 'Mea Culpa, mea maxima culpa'? What > > > if Charly Manson invited everybody to convince you that he is actually a > > > nice guy, would you go and meet him? (I am not saying that Robin is like > > > Manson!) > > > > > > > Can you imagine what it must feel like be in a position where you need > > > > to prove you are good and decent person, now changed from 25 years ago? > > > > > > That's my point: where's the need to prove it? That's so absurd. And then > > > Raunchy, anyone, anywhere, will not just be a trustful to believe someone > > > has changed just on the hearsay of it. So what? Why the NEED to convince? > > > That in itself makes him suspicious. > > > > > > > What else would you have him do? > > > > > > Nothing. Just let people have their opinions. > > > > > > > Where's the compassion you spoke of? Diagnosing Robin with BPD is a > > > > heaping pile of inappropriateness on your part, IMO. > > > > > > > I didn't even mention Robin when posting the link. You are interpreting a > > > little too much into this. > > > > > > > In my opinion you're an opinionated, chucklehead. Now, here and > > forevermore, everyone who reads FFLife will know this is my opinion of you. > > It doesn't matter whether it's true or not. If I repeat it often enough, > > someone might believe it, maybe someone you love and respect will believe > > it and you're O.K. with that, right. You needn't defend yourself, because > > it's only my opinion...no big deal, we're all entitled to unaccountable > > fact free opinions, aren't we? Don't bother meeting me for coffee to prove > > you're a nice guy, I wouldn't believe anything said even if you picked up > > the tab. Nothing you say or do will ever change my opinion of you and > > you're O.K. with that, right? > > > > Look, Raunchy, you and Judy, you two are actually with your constant twisting > and reinterpreting what a person has said, messing it all up. I mean, do you > want to help Robin really? I don't think you do with your black and white > logic, your constant anger and attacks. You are actually and effectively > preventing even the possibility of a meaningful exchange with him, because I > think he can argue far better and more truthful than any of you two would do. > I feel much more sympathy for him than for any of you two. You are both only > reacting, nothing original, and nothing even clever. >
Robin doesn't need your sympathy and no one is stopping you from having a meaningful exchange with him, as if, given your prejudice against him, that was ever you intention.
