Oh Barry, always playing to your imagined audience, aren't you? So CUTE, and precocious! The Schnizzit ***** <---Rating your fantasy five stars.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > You think THAT is a "good zinger"? OK, Barry, and eating > > out of one's toilet bowl is a Michelin four star meal... > > Whatever YOU say, Dream Boy. > > For those newcomers who don't know, this self-named > dumbass has proclaimed himself to be enlightened. > > Yeah, right. Just like Ravi and Robin. Yet another > reason why no one should be interested in the TM > version of "enlightenment." :-) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Between the title and the chosen screen name I certainly > > > > can't fault you for incomplete disclosure. > > > > > > I've missed you, Curtis. People's standards around here > > > have sunk so low that they actually think Ravi and Ann > > > and Raunchy know how to craft a good zinger. Amateurs, > > > the whole lot of them. :-) > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual > > > > > journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to > > > > > have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. > > > > > > > > > > Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for > > > > > proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, > > > > > become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object > > > > > changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed > > > > > 'I', in order to make learning possible. > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous > > > > > identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine > > > > > discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, > > > > > watching its glorious and unending unfolding. > > > > > > > > > > But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, > > > > > primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with > > > > > following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, > > > > > etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist > > > > > temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. > > > > > > > > > > Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues > > > > > of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers > > > > > of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In > > > > > other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the > > > > > current dream, the second dream. > > > > > > > > > > For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM > > > > > technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with > > > > > Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of > > > > > the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. > > > > > > > > > > Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are > > > > > faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that > > > > > brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream > > > > > that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a > > > > > religion or spiritual organization. > > > > > > > > > > They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! > > > > > > > > > > Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting > > > > > oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to > > > > > ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The > > > > > response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories > > > > > and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. > > > > > > > > > > Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, > > > > > they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they > > > > > exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - > > > > > Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting > > > > > palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget > > > > > themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly > > > > > reject the second dream, for the third; that of "earnest confusion". > > > > > > > > > > Its a good place to be these days, "earnestly confused". People > > > > > appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning > > > > > that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. > > > > > > > > > > It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a > > > > > sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry > > > > > but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts > > > > > that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream > > > > > they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. > > > > > > > > > > However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have > > > > > gained some insight. This makes them appear "wise", and > > > > > "knowledgeable" and "widely read". The reality is that they are not a > > > > > whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. > > > > > > > > > > Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their > > > > > past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are > > > > > convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for > > > > > themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them > > > > > around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly > > > > > denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting > > > > > the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. > > > > > > > > > > This is all the "earnestly confused" have - this one insight that the > > > > > spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another > > > > > dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They > > > > > accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS > > > > > IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. > > > > > > > > > > However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, > > > > > and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing > > > > > to offer those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading > > > > > the blind. > > > > > > > > > > And others smell this on them. These "third dreamers" become like > > > > > politicians, telling others the endless errors of their ways, but > > > > > offering nothing in return. So, unfortunately, they become lost > > > > > between attempting to convert others to their one insight, yet not > > > > > recognizing that the resistance they often encounter is not in > > > > > response to their ideas, but a direct response to their inauthentic > > > > > vibes, the "earnest confusion", the silent message they send of > > > > > trying to change the beliefs of others purely to make their third > > > > > dream of "earnest confusion", a perfect dream for themselves. > > > > > > > > > > The last person any of us are going to listen to, or take seriously > > > > > is someone who goes after any organization, political, economic or > > > > > spiritual, and clearly has no self knowledge. It Just Don't Smell > > > > > Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
