Ravi is so cool, I love him. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> ** > > > Are you saying Ravi did TM? Did Ravi do TM? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 9:32 AM > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: "Earnest Confusion" > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> > wrote: > > > > You think THAT is a "good zinger"? OK, Barry, and eating > > out of one's toilet bowl is a Michelin four star meal... > > Whatever YOU say, Dream Boy. > > For those newcomers who don't know, this self-named > dumbass has proclaimed himself to be enlightened. > > Yeah, right. Just like Ravi and Robin. Yet another > reason why no one should be interested in the TM > version of "enlightenment." :-) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Between the title and the chosen screen name I certainly > > > > can't fault you for incomplete disclosure. > > > > > > I've missed you, Curtis. People's standards around here > > > have sunk so low that they actually think Ravi and Ann > > > and Raunchy know how to craft a good zinger. Amateurs, > > > the whole lot of them. :-) > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a > spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here > seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. > > > > > > > > > > Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, > for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become > an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as > knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make > learning possible. > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous > identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. > Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and > unending unfolding. > > > > > > > > > > But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, > primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with > following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., > within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the > bible, start a meditation program. > > > > > > > > > > Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the > issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers > of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other > words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, > the second dream. > > > > > > > > > > For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM > technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic > Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the > organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. > > > > > > > > > > Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are > faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought > them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then > on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual > organization. > > > > > > > > > > They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! > > > > > > > > > > Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting > oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, > terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many > is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping > into yet a third dream. > > > > > > > > > > Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, > they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed > themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this > and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their > foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some > teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; > that of "earnest confusion". > > > > > > > > > > Its a good place to be these days, "earnestly confused". People > appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that > never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. > > > > > > > > > > It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a > sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but > calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that > leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely > followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. > > > > > > > > > > However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have > gained some insight. This makes them appear "wise", and "knowledgeable" and > "widely read". The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along > in their spiritual path as when they started. > > > > > > > > > > Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to > their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are > convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, > the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. > Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking > those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical > manner. > > > > > > > > > > This is all the "earnestly confused" have - this one insight that > the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another > dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They > accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS > IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. > > > > > > > > > > However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, > and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to > offer those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading the blind. > > > > > > > > > > And others smell this on them. These "third dreamers" become like > politicians, telling others the endless errors of their ways, but offering > nothing in return. So, unfortunately, they become lost between attempting > to convert others to their one insight, yet not recognizing that the > resistance they often encounter is not in response to their ideas, but a > direct response to their inauthentic vibes, the "earnest confusion", the > silent message they send of trying to change the beliefs of others purely > to make their third dream of "earnest confusion", a perfect dream for > themselves. > > > > > > > > > > The last person any of us are going to listen to, or take > seriously is someone who goes after any organization, political, economic > or spiritual, and clearly has no self knowledge. It Just Don't Smell Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
