--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Right on, Wolf-Baiter (though in this case your subject, Curtis, is a pink > little poodle baby, with apologies to poodles everywhere.) - Or, switching > scenes, he reminds me of a guy my first wife told me about years ago, who was > trying to ask the office babe out for lunch. > > He starts telling her a saucy little joke, but then inadvertently sneezed a > rather large, um, booger, onto her desk. He blithely flicked it away with his > finger, and continued with his humor. Lunch never, ever happened, though the > story made the rounds.
Christ Dr, I literally just spewed pear cider out of my mouth reading this right now. I am going to have to mop it up after I type this. God, that was funny. Oh, and thanks. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ME: I already responded to Dr Dumb Ass's snipped comments. I will accept > > > Raunchy's as a writing prompt. > > > > > > RD: > > > > > > > > > > I like what you say here, Doc. Just to guild your lily a little, I'd > > > > > say that irreverence is a performance art of disaffected seekers. > > > > > They indulge in tipping sacred cows hoping people will react in > > > > > horror. > > > > > > ME: Let me stop you there. Can you name a single person who could be > > > expected to react in horror from a satiric piece on Christianity here? > > > Name one pearl-clutcher, to use you apt image. A single person whose > > > identification with the ideas contained in the myths of Christianity, is > > > so complete that anything I wrote could be expected to react in the way > > > your are trying to project here. One. > > > > Hey Curtis, just some thoughts on your responses/questions here. Upon > > reading your post of yesterday I was carried along on that magic carpet > > ride only you here at FFL are capable of providing. Words come out of you > > as sleek as little seals and they squirm and splash around beautifully, > > effortlessly. And I find my eyes gliding along with these little creatures > > frolicking away and before I know it you have transported me someplace. > > That place includes twists and turns and drops and rolls. But then > > sometimes the little journey I am on strands me in a kind of bizarre > > place, an uncomfortable place. Your 'Christmas' spiel did just that. Not > > because I am religious, not because I am Christian, not because I am > > conservative or narrow. I think it was because in between all of those > > really fun little jumps and dives there were these other things too. > > > > I re-read your piece a few times to try and understand what I was feeling > > and why. I am still working it out but I realized, even though those slick, > > black agile little seals really performed, I was left feeling bereft. For > > some reason I didn't feel good after the post. I felt yucky in fact. Now I > > am not saying you are a yucky guy, just that the effect your writing in > > this instance had on me was to leave me feeling sort of besmirched (great > > word, "besmirched"). Anyway, I think it was because in what you wrote, what > > you said was essentially flattened something. Probably not across the board > > and certainly not in everyone's experience based on the kudos you received, > > but for me it annihilated something, momentarily. It was sort of like > > someone telling you Santa Claus never is or never was and anyone who > > believed differently needed to realize this and realize it but good. > > > > You see, there was no redeeming element that allowed for a happy ending, a > > reprieve, any hope. It was like so many things that I take joy in were > > smashed open and what was inside was just stuffing and sawdust. The wonder > > inherent in certain subjects you touched (stomped?) upon disappeared. The > > things you wrote about became, for me, less rich, less full, meaner. They > > lost their specialness, things, precious things, became less than ordinary > > when in fact they are not. > > > > I wish I could have enjoyed it like many others here did because, man oh > > man, can you write. You have experienced so much in your 57 years (or > > pretty close to that I think?) and there seems to be so much that wants to > > be expressed within your intelligence. Maybe I'll just wait for your next > > aquatic seal show and see if I like it any better. But boy those little > > devils can certainly swim. > > > > > > I argue that mine is exactly the opposite motivation than the one you > > > propose here. I wrote it for people who share my sense of humor, I am an > > > entertainer. I would never post it on a board of Christians because I do > > > not have the motivation you ascribe to me. And at this point if anyone is > > > offended by my perspective on Maharishi, after years of full disclosure > > > of my POV, shame on them for reading it. They are going way out of their > > > way for their offended buzz. > > > > > > An example of why I wrote it was Emily's response. That made me very > > > happy and fulfilled my intentions for posting it. > > > > > > RD: > > > It's rather juvenile but they do it just to show how hip, they are and > > > how hip you're not because they think you haven't rejected the beliefs > > > that they have. > > > > > > ME: Do you believe that Jesus died for your sins and that maintaining > > > this believe will somehow alter your disposition in the afterlife? Can > > > you name one person who has that belief here that I could impose my > > > hipness on by making a satire about Christianity? Since we all dissected > > > Judith's book in detail here I could not reasonably expect my mention of > > > the reality of Maharishi's hidden life would do more than elicit a ho hum > > > from this jaded crew. You are imagining something to shame me for that > > > doesn't even make sense. Name one belief concerning the Jesus myth that > > > I have rejected and you have not. The unique divinity of Christ? His > > > role as your personal savior through the mechanism of belief? His role as > > > the fulfillment of the prophesies of the Old Testament? That he was > > > required by God to suffer for our sins? You have to dismiss all the > > > details of Christian theology to get to something we might disagree on, > > > perhaps your conjectures about his state of mind. Maybe you think he was > > > an enlightened guy and I don't. But we agree on a hundred things about > > > the story to find the one we do not agree on. > > > > > > RD: > > > > > > > > > > Even today, Barry thought it would be fun to post humorously > > > > > irreverent road signs by MUM to see who smiled and see who didn't > > > > > smile. I suspect he's more interested in pissing people off than in > > > > > delighting them. I go for the latter. > > > > > > ME: I draw your attention to this post as counter evidence for that claim. > > > > > > RD: > > > > > > > > > > Funny thing is, after awhile all the TMO, TM and Maharishi bashing, > > > > > pissing on baby Jesus and exhibitionistic waggling of dicks gets to > > > > > be so ho-hum that one hardly notices cries for attention fading into > > > > > the distance. Sadly, when irreverent performance artists, shock > > > > > jocks, don't get the negative reaction they hoped, they're just as > > > > > happy to get applause for taking a public dump from people who don't > > > > > know the difference between art and schlock. > > > > > > ME: I saw a great Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David was being > > > subjected to his wife's family Christmas traditions. Alone in the > > > kitchen Larry passes the time eating a cookie he found in a manger scene. > > > To his chagrin and the horror of his in-laws, it turned out that he had > > > eaten the baby Jesus cookie in an all cookie manger scene. Opening his > > > mouth only to switch feet, he tried to pacify them all as they flocked > > > around to shame him by saying "I thought it was a monkey cookie." They > > > were not pacified. > > > > > > I share my sense of irreverent humor with Larry, and I wonder if you > > > would project all these negative qualities on his intentions as you have > > > on mine. A more broad minded perspective might allow that when it comes > > > to humor, it is a personal thing and not feel the need to demonize > > > someone making different choices than you. > > > > > > RD > > > > > > > > > > Irreverent art is really old school. Back in the day of the Dadaists: > > > > > > > > > > "Marcel Duchamp penciled a mustache and goatee on a print of Leonardo > > > > > da Vinci's Mona Lisa and inscribed the work "L.H.O.O.Q." Spelled out > > > > > in French these letters form a risqué pun: Elle a chaud au cul, or > > > > > "She has hot pants."... > > > > > > > > > > Francis Picabia, once tacked a stuffed monkey to a board and called > > > > > it a portrait of Cézanne... > > > > > > > > > > Schoenberg's music was atonal, Mal-larmé's poems scrambled syntax and > > > > > scattered words across the page and Picasso's Cubism made a hash of > > > > > human anatomy... > > > > > > > > > > But, for all its zaniness, the Dada movement would prove to be one of > > > > > the most influential in modern art, foreshadowing abstract and > > > > > conceptual art, performance art, op, pop and installation art." > > > > > http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/dada.html > > > > > > ME: I appreciated your references and I think you are supporting a case > > > more for its value. For me I believe it has tremendous philosophical > > > value to examine myths in an original way. I am not only trying to > > > entertain those who share my sense of humor, I am mapping out my > > > perspective by sharing a unique approach to these myths. And finally I > > > am sharing my actual throught process as I contemplate the images of my > > > own nativity dredged up from my youth. > > > > > > For those who are friendly toward me here, it is sharing who I am my > > > perspective. For those who feel the need to use this as proof of a > > > personality or spiritual defect, they are welcome to that but I can't > > > respect that POV. It seems unnecessarily uncharitable considering the > > > fact that their own beliefs are not being called into question. > > > > > > RD: > > > > > > > > > > When all is said and done and irreverent spiritual performance > > > > > artists have met the "Maker of Us All" that they poopoo, > > > > > > ME: So you are really that sure of yourself about this? I would like you > > > to make a case to support such a belief, show us what you are basing it > > > on as I have shared why I reject it. > > > > > > RD: > > > generations of unschooled idiots will pay homage to them by scouring the > > > archives of FFLife for instructions on how to be an asshole while tipping > > > sacred cows. > > > > > > ME: When I try to conjure up the reasons and motivations for your writing > > > this insult, I can't come up with a single on that I respect. > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > I loved this, raunchy. You have the right credentials--all the way down. > > > > > > > > > > ME: That strikes me as a bit disappointing to hear you say that. > > > > > >
