Thank you Curtis. True story, actually. I'm not very creative. Ha. And, I don't take those stinkin' horse pills anymore. P.S. I adore Jon Stewart.
I agree with you on the "draft" issue here on FFL. You were very accommodating and I appreciate the fact you read the drama I put forth, despite what Richard said. Regards, Emilina. >________________________________ > From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:31 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" or "reeely >stooopid" > > > >Hey Emily, I wanted to high five you on your image of the person puking up the >vitamin on the way to work. You really stuck the landing with the last >reference to smelling like too much perfume and cough drops. Inventive >details like that delight me. > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" <emilymae.reyn@...> >wrote: >> >> You see,this started out so *boring*....and ended up so interesting. Yes, I >> think the two of you should discuss 1) the *method* Robin used on LG and 2) >> grace. I'm more interested in grace, of course. Now, I will laugh my way >> through the next walk with the dog. And I will be quiet today and practice >> listening. >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > And why don't you just leave this be, Ann? I feel *your* animosity >> > > > > here. There is someone who is being persecuted. Emily is only >> > > > > getting what she deserves. If I were a woman I would want to be >> > > > > Camille Claudel. Ravi was referring to Prince Myshkin--where >> > > > > Dostoyevsky's intent was to create >> > > > >> > > > I hope this once, the object of your gratuitous hatred can resist the >> > > > temptation to take it to you, Ann--because if she does this once >> > > > more--and you don't realize how ignominiously defeated you are, I will >> > > > have to send you (this time) into a virtual exile. I am trying to do >> > > > some good around here, Ann: please learn to whisper more wisely to >> > > > these other horses. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > M: Let's see here, mmmm,...uh....Oh, I think I get it now. >> > > > >> > > > Robin is the new Buck. And FFL is the new Dune. The snide schtick has >> > > > become the man, and as the Beatles say: >> > > > >> > > > "Let me take you down `Cause I'm going to... Strawberry Fields Nothing >> > > > is real And nothing to get hung about. Strawberry Fields forever" >> > > > >> > > > (Insert guitar riff here.) >> > > > >> > > > The tell: >> > > > >> > > > "a character "entirely positive...with an absolutely beautiful >> > > > nature". >> > > > >> > > > See, I am catching on to the formula. Share has been dissed, and Ann's >> > > > challenge supported, but it looks like Ann was being chastised. >> > > > >> > > > The overkill, but it makes sure Ann is in on it: >> > > > >> > > > "if she does this once more--and you don't realize how ignominiously >> > > > defeated you are, I will have to send you (this time) into a virtual >> > > > exile." >> > > > >> > > > Let the cackling commence. >> > > >> > > Dear Curtis, >> > > >> > > I am not sure I follow you here. But I am aware of one thing: You are >> > > interested in my tactics, but not, I see, interested in the issue which >> > > has drawn me into Strawberry Fields forever. >> > >> > M: That is correct, the whole Share interaction with others doesn't >> > interest me at all. >> > >> > R: You would make a moral stand against my method of expressing my >> > conviction about a matter that I can consider serious enough to warrant >> > being as ironic as I can be? >> > >> > M: I was not making a moral stand, I was sorting it out for myself. I >> > have been having some trouble following your post's intent and wanted to >> > figure it out. Obviously many others have no trouble at all following >> > your method of communication here. But like Buck it makes following the >> > ball a bit difficult sometimes as you slip in and out of what you are >> > calling your "ironic" character. >> > >> > R: >> > > >> > > Do you wish to discuss the issue, Curtis? You would imply that my use of >> > > irony proves something underhanded and insincere about me, whereas your >> > > exposing what is going on here somehow in that revealing is something >> > > higher than my deploying my Buck in the Dome side? >> > >> > M: Higher, lower, those are all your own judgements. It isn't my style so >> > obviously I have my preferences. It is hard to pull off in writing so >> > many levels of communication without any support from voice tone or >> > expressions. >> > >> > R:> >> > > Let's fight out this issue--I won't stoop to irony, and you won't >> > > therefore have some criticism to make of me. Do you know what the issue >> > > is, Curtis? You have already given your judgment of that issue in a >> > > post. Do you stand behind that judgment? >> > >> > M: You lost me here. There is the Share deal and then there is my >> > observation of how you are communicating. Did you read Dune BTW? My >> > reference there is not all all unflattering, it is one of my favorite >> > books precisely for how they depict very complex multilayered >> > communications. Which issue do you mean? I lost interest in your POV on >> > Share after the post I commented on a long time ago where you were trying >> > to get her to experience something about herself. I don't believe this >> > discussion needs to be framed as a fight. >> > >> > R: >> > > >> > > What I would like to see you do, Curtis--and this would surprise me--is >> > > explain why you would in your having (quite effectively) told the FFL >> > > readers what's up here feel you had essentially (if implicitly) somehow >> > > looked after and answered the issue. Like what Emily is saying in her >> > > last post. >> > >> > M: I find your style of interaction interesting. I don't find the >> > interactions people are having with Share interesting. People are making >> > their own choices how they want to show up here, and I consider it all >> > very boring. I'm sure inside it all it is fascinating for the >> > participants just as my choices of interactions fascinate me. >> > >> > >> > R:> >> > > Are you willing to address Emily or Ann's point, Curtis? I think your >> > > avoidance of the issue far more significant a 'tell' than your ability >> > > to see what I am up to here. My response is to a sense of what is really >> > > going on; your response would make it (the issue Emily for instance is >> > > raising) something less morally or psychologically significant than your >> > > having caught me in my customary way of handling a dispute when one >> > > party is stonewalling. >> > >> > M: We always hit an impasse when you try to get me to direct my attention >> > on other people. I would sooner remove my eye with my unwashed hands >> > after re-potting a plant, than sort through that tangle of interactions. >> > "Avoiding" the issue is either spin or stating the obvious that we are all >> > making our choices for our attention here. I am "avoiding" 99% of what >> > goes on here to pursue my own interests just as I do in my offline life. >> > Any judgement of what I "should" be interested with will be met with the >> > same success my 7th grade math teacher had when she told me to put away my >> > American Indian book. >> > >> > R: >> > > The issue, Curtis: what is it? I understand it--or think I understand >> > > it--in a deep enough way to take the liberty of testing where the grace >> > > might be in this matter. >> > >> > M: You answered my question and I appreciate it Robin. I understand how >> > you are communicating here better. I don't find anything egregious in how >> > you expressed yourself. But like with Buck, where his irony melts into >> > his actual POV, I find you hard to follow sometimes. I have another >> > analysis of your method you used on LG that might be fun to discuss if you >> > are up for it. >> > >> > Oh, and what's up with this reference to "grace". How are you defining >> > it, what is the agent of it and how do we know when we have detected it. >> > Do you mean which POV do we prefer or are you claiming more than that? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear FFL, just to set the record straight: I don't even THINK >> > > > > > > the word imbecile much less express it. Emily recently asked a >> > > > > > > question about TM and I followed up with a similar question to >> > > > > > > Steve. Not sure how my asking a question of Steve is saying >> > > > > > > anything at all about Emily. And it's true that I ONCE called >> > > > > > > Emily's sense of humor creepy. She is the person who is >> > > > > > > multiplying it. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me >> > > > > > > something I did not say or even think, that is what I'd call >> > > > > > > creepy here. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Why this sudden animosity towards Emily? Steve and her can be >> > > > > > friends too, you know. >> > > > > >> > > > > And why don't you just leave this be, Ann? I feel *your* animosity >> > > > > here. There is someone who is being persecuted. Emily is only >> > > > > getting what she deserves. If I were a woman I would want to be >> > > > > Camille Claudel. Ravi was referring to Prince Myshkin--where >> > > > > Dostoyevsky's intent was to create a character "entirely >> > > > > positive...with an absolutely beautiful nature". I hope this once, >> > > > > the object of your gratuitous hatred can resist the temptation to >> > > > > take it to you, Ann--because if she does this once more--and you >> > > > > don't realize how ignominiously defeated you are, I will have to >> > > > > send you (this time) into a virtual exile. I am trying to do some >> > > > > good around here, Ann: please learn to whisper more wisely to these >> > > > > other horses. >> > > > > >> > > > > > > BTW how I remember this sequence: lines on stone, lines on >> > > > > > > sand, lines on water, lines on air. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ >> > > > > > > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> >> > > > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" >> > > > > > > <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really >> > > > > > > stupid" or "reeely stooopid" >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >  >> > > > > > > Steve:  I was being sincere - you really have been laying down >> > > > > > > some funny stuff, IMO.  You are never the butt of my joke.  I >> > > > > > > almost always laugh in the spirit of the moment and never with >> > > > > > > mean intention - and I'm quite serious about that.  I laugh at >> > > > > > > the human condition and our attempts to communicate with each >> > > > > > > other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard when things >> > > > > > > are tough.  I should really get a volunteer position as I've >> > > > > > > already filled out the application - I just have to make the >> > > > > > > call.  >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably >> > > > > > > won't.  I run it through a lot of different filters some days. >> > > > > > >  Which means that I "misinterpret" at times on purpose for a >> > > > > > > different effect - easy to do with words on paper. And it is >> > > > > > > well known now, thanks to Share, that I have a "creepy" sense of >> > > > > > > humor.  And I am a TM imbecile.  >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > And I wasn't feeling particularly up today, if truth be told, so >> > > > > > > I really appreciated your posts.  And, I love a good beer. >> > > > > > >  Had to give it up when I was diagnosed as gluten intolerant, >> > > > > > > but I'm going to cheat after what Emptybill posted today.  >> > > > > > > Emily >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >________________________________ >> > > > > > > > From: seventhray27 <steve.sundur@> >> > > > > > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:04 PM >> > > > > > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" >> > > > > > > >or "reeely stooopid" >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really >> > > > > > > >don't care. If I can be the butt of her joke, so be it. >> > > > > > > >(and yes, I need to check out the link) >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" >> > > > > > > ><maskedzebra@> wrote: >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll >> > > > > > > >> be where Ted wrote about sex with Sylvia. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn >> > > > > > > >> emilymae.reyn@ wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha >> > > > > > > >> > ah....ahhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what >> > > > > > > >> > is up for you, but you are really making me laugh these >> > > > > > > >> > days.  Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....... >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >________________________________ >> > > > > > > >> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ >> > > > > > > >> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > > > > > > >> > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM >> > > > > > > >> > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really >> > > > > > > >> > >stupid" or "reeely stooopid" >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" >> > > > > > > >> > ><maskedzebra@> wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" >> > > > > > > >> > >> steve.sundur@ wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. >> > > > > > > >> > >> And you have been more merciful than most here--I don't >> > > > > > > >> > >> like people criticizing me--but you, you say something >> > > > > > > >> > >> nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And >> > > > > > > >> > >> believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference. >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are >> > > > > > > >> > >> trying to teach it to me indirectly--through anecdotes >> > > > > > > >> > >> like the ones in this post. I think this an efficacious >> > > > > > > >> > >> way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve. >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am >> > > > > > > making. Don't ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your >> > > > > > > love. >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Make a daily journal.  We'll call it "Robin's Daily >> > > > > > > >> > >Journal".  Make a list of the things you hope to >> > > > > > > >> > >accomplish in a given day, and maybe some personality >> > > > > > > >> > >traits to which you want to pay a little closer attention. >> > > > > > > >> > > And then at the end of the day, you can write about >> > > > > > > >> > >how you feel you did.  >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >For example, "Was I too aggressive applying my First >> > > > > > > >> > >Person Ontology test to those I interacted with?"  Or, >> > > > > > > >> > >"Was my irony appropriate, or insincere".  These >> > > > > > > >> > >might be some areas to consider.  I really don't know. >> > > > > > > >> > > I am just throwing them out for suggestions.  >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >We're here for you Robin. We can get through this. >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> We are good now, I think, >> > > > > > > Steve. >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> Robin >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
