Ooops, didn't see the Girish card up yer sleeve - wouldn't have commented if I 
had, thus knowing in advance, despite any personal likability, the Rajas were 
fucked from the beginning...Next time I'll study the fine print more closely. 
My bad.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I know two of the Rajas -- worked for one for two years, knew the other via 
> pot-lucks.  Both millionaires AT BIRTH -- both assholes....mean 
> assholes....haughty, rude motherfucking assholes.  Did I make myself clear?  
> I don't know about the others.    
> 
> Again I ask, who in the hell concludes with certainty that they are a 
> world-class spiritual leader when all they really have is a million bucks?  
> An idiot, right?
> 
> Anyone who thinks they are knower of reality, here in FFL, step up and tell 
> me why I'm wrong about these Rajas because you're sooooo tuned into goodness 
> that you know these guys are CORE and jiggy with God.  I'll wait.  
> 
> And I don't give shit one if you know these guys are kind and nice and 
> responsible and funny and smart and productive -- I can make a list of such 
> people who are on death row.  
> 
> These Rajas either know the "money story" and the "Girish story" or THEY 
> DON'T.  If they do, fuck 'em, if they don't, they're too fucking clueless to 
> even be a silly Raja.  
> 
> When I was  TM teacher only six months into it, I had folks asking me if I 
> was enlightened. Why?  Because I was kind and spouted ancient knowledge.  
> BAH! Anyone can be fooled by anyone into thinking someone is special.
> 
> Edg  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > "And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality 
> > right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self: 
> > "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an overlord!"
> > 
> > Speaking of certainty, ever actually spoken with a RAJA, face to face, over 
> > time? ...didn't think so...The one I have known for nearly twenty years is 
> > a very humble person, who has not tried to denigrate, manipulate or BS me, 
> > ever. Always honest and open - don't always agree with each other's ideas, 
> > though there is always mutual respect, and consideration. We haven't seen 
> > each other for a few years, but did have an interesting email exchange a 
> > couple months ago about immortality.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Certainty is the drug addiction of the ego.
> > > 
> > > But but but, though I personally cannot bear witness to any big crimes of 
> > > the TMO, I can bear witness to having been told many many many stories 
> > > about the movement's chicanery -- told by those who were in a position to 
> > > know.  Too many stories --at least some of them are/were true.  
> > > 
> > > Of course, let's point at the elephant under the rug:  almost all the 
> > > money the movement has collected has been disappeared into India -- 
> > > Girish et alia.
> > > 
> > > Talk about your crimes!  
> > > 
> > > Then there's the thousands of ATR credits that were simply taken away 
> > > with ZERO fucks given by the movement leaders.  
> > > 
> > > How about the movement saying, "Oh by the way, your center, the one that 
> > > all your meditators locally raised the money to buy?  SELL IT AND SEND 
> > > THE MONEY TO US."
> > > 
> > > And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality 
> > > right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self:  
> > > "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an 
> > > overlord!" 
> > > 
> > > Then there's the Course Office people -- the meanest fucks I ever met, 
> > > and they could do crime all day and night for their guru.
> > > 
> > > Edg
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know very little, but I am certain that many crimes have been 
> > > > > committed by the TMO. 
> > > > 
> > > > LOL!! If you know very little, how can you be certain of anything?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  It's a complete spectrum of silly to evil.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On one end is:  On my teacher training, some guy had a car accident 
> > > > > and they sneaked him out of Spain before the cops could get him.  
> > > > > There were many tales of cash being illegally moved to other 
> > > > > countries.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the other end:  Maharishi is said to told someone to drive fast 
> > > > > and not care about the speed limits.  Maharishi gave everyone salt 
> > > > > and peanuts on the courses even though it was "wrong."  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Think about the mind-set of the MUM officials when that guy stabbed 
> > > > > the other guy.  THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- cover the movement's 
> > > > > ass and save face AT ANY COST.
> > > > > 
> > > > > They all just did what they wanted to do and figured out "words for 
> > > > > it" later.  No morality.  No righteousness.  Just self-serving 
> > > > > movement besmirching decisions is all.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is all made-up on the spot.  I'll bet Maharishi decided on the 
> > > > > first set of mantras in about 10 minutes flat.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Edg
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there is NO lying cheating or stealing by the people in the 
> > > > > > movement you are slandering so carelessly, where is your proof? 
> > > > > > Likewise you defame Maharishi with absolutely no proof of any of 
> > > > > > the kind of wrongdoing that you parrot from others. The fault is in 
> > > > > > yourself.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the idea that everyone does it so don't fuss with particular 
> > > > > > > people who do it is the same kind of bullshit mentality that has 
> > > > > > > led to the utterly corrupt practices on Wall Street that has led 
> > > > > > > to a world wide economic crisis - where is your proof of Gandhi 
> > > > > > > clan corruption other than what you have heard and read? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I read this comment by an English person commenting on the Mayan 
> > > > > > > flyer articles and I passed it on, much like you are passing on 
> > > > > > > information and judgement about the Gandhis - I don't give damn 
> > > > > > > who else lies, cheats and steals it doesn't make it alright for 
> > > > > > > Maharishi and his family to do it too, especially when they have 
> > > > > > > been taking money under false pretenses for decades and then 
> > > > > > > can't even bring themselves to handle the wealth legitimately
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Like I have said before, I believe in results and in manifest 
> > > > > > > behavior - the kind of behavior that these people manifest show a 
> > > > > > > low and selfish level of consciousness and the kind of mentality 
> > > > > > > that excuses it for the Marshy family while reviling others in 
> > > > > > > India for doing the same thing reminds me of the character of the 
> > > > > > > Emperor Commodus as depicted in the movie Gladiator.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Show me the public information that shows without question that 
> > > > > > > Maha was an honest custodian of the funds he lived off of for 
> > > > > > > nearly 60 years. Back up what you say. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I believe people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and Barry 
> > > > > > > because what they relate about Maharishi (who by the way does not 
> > > > > > > deserve that title) has the ring of truth AND when you put all 
> > > > > > > the stories together with public statements and actions (like the 
> > > > > > > scorpion nation episode) you see a consistent picture of an 
> > > > > > > egotistical, childishly egotistical, horny, greedy con artist who 
> > > > > > > created a movement dedicated not to the enlightenment of the 
> > > > > > > world nor the betterment of the individual but to making himself 
> > > > > > > an icon and living a high and luxurious life. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You are flat out incorrect when you call these things "baseless 
> > > > > > > innuendo". Like I said, back up your words - show us the public 
> > > > > > > information showing that Maharishi was an honest custodian of the 
> > > > > > > funds he received for 57 years.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All governments are corrupt - which means the people who run them 
> > > > > > > are corrupt and that is no excuse for personal or institutional 
> > > > > > > corruption and dishonesty. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >  From: "srijau@" <srijau@>
> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:03 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth for Marshy's Kin 
> > > > > > > Folks
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > when you are dealing with an utterly corrupt government like 
> > > > > > > India's has been for some time then it should come as no surprise 
> > > > > > > that one has to resort to things like smuggling gold into the 
> > > > > > > country. The Gandhi clan is the one that has been single mindedly 
> > > > > > > engaged in self-enrichment and the level of manipulation of all 
> > > > > > > facets of government to their ends and against anyone they 
> > > > > > > imagine to not support those ends is not something that I think 
> > > > > > > you understand. If you were an Indian you would especially given 
> > > > > > > the recent revelations of the miraculous enrichment of a certain 
> > > > > > > person who married into that family. Whatever you claim otherwise 
> > > > > > > is actually based on a lot of baseless innuendo and there is 
> > > > > > > public information to the contrary but you are the sort of person 
> > > > > > > who repeats lies so as to give them credibility.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A comment on the article about the 8,000 flyers in Mexico
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "I too am a former TM sidha. I gave thousands of pounds to the 
> > > > > > > > organisation over many years, but had no more to do with it 
> > > > > > > > after I got close to an Indian working for the organisation at 
> > > > > > > > a senior level. He confided in me that the top people close to 
> > > > > > > > Maharishi had asked him to smuggle gold during his trips from 
> > > > > > > > Europe and USA back to India!! When he refused they pressured 
> > > > > > > > him and made him break down, threatening he would have no 
> > > > > > > > future in the organisation if he didn't comply. Thus was back 
> > > > > > > > in the 90's when Maharishi was still alive. No wonder the 
> > > > > > > > movement in India is rich!"
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=366529
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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