Ooops, didn't see the Girish card up yer sleeve - wouldn't have commented if I had, thus knowing in advance, despite any personal likability, the Rajas were fucked from the beginning...Next time I'll study the fine print more closely. My bad.:-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I know two of the Rajas -- worked for one for two years, knew the other via > pot-lucks. Both millionaires AT BIRTH -- both assholes....mean > assholes....haughty, rude motherfucking assholes. Did I make myself clear? > I don't know about the others. > > Again I ask, who in the hell concludes with certainty that they are a > world-class spiritual leader when all they really have is a million bucks? > An idiot, right? > > Anyone who thinks they are knower of reality, here in FFL, step up and tell > me why I'm wrong about these Rajas because you're sooooo tuned into goodness > that you know these guys are CORE and jiggy with God. I'll wait. > > And I don't give shit one if you know these guys are kind and nice and > responsible and funny and smart and productive -- I can make a list of such > people who are on death row. > > These Rajas either know the "money story" and the "Girish story" or THEY > DON'T. If they do, fuck 'em, if they don't, they're too fucking clueless to > even be a silly Raja. > > When I was TM teacher only six months into it, I had folks asking me if I > was enlightened. Why? Because I was kind and spouted ancient knowledge. > BAH! Anyone can be fooled by anyone into thinking someone is special. > > Edg > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > "And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality > > right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self: > > "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an overlord!" > > > > Speaking of certainty, ever actually spoken with a RAJA, face to face, over > > time? ...didn't think so...The one I have known for nearly twenty years is > > a very humble person, who has not tried to denigrate, manipulate or BS me, > > ever. Always honest and open - don't always agree with each other's ideas, > > though there is always mutual respect, and consideration. We haven't seen > > each other for a few years, but did have an interesting email exchange a > > couple months ago about immortality. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Certainty is the drug addiction of the ego. > > > > > > But but but, though I personally cannot bear witness to any big crimes of > > > the TMO, I can bear witness to having been told many many many stories > > > about the movement's chicanery -- told by those who were in a position to > > > know. Too many stories --at least some of them are/were true. > > > > > > Of course, let's point at the elephant under the rug: almost all the > > > money the movement has collected has been disappeared into India -- > > > Girish et alia. > > > > > > Talk about your crimes! > > > > > > Then there's the thousands of ATR credits that were simply taken away > > > with ZERO fucks given by the movement leaders. > > > > > > How about the movement saying, "Oh by the way, your center, the one that > > > all your meditators locally raised the money to buy? SELL IT AND SEND > > > THE MONEY TO US." > > > > > > And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality > > > right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self: > > > "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an > > > overlord!" > > > > > > Then there's the Course Office people -- the meanest fucks I ever met, > > > and they could do crime all day and night for their guru. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know very little, but I am certain that many crimes have been > > > > > committed by the TMO. > > > > > > > > LOL!! If you know very little, how can you be certain of anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a complete spectrum of silly to evil. > > > > > > > > > > On one end is: On my teacher training, some guy had a car accident > > > > > and they sneaked him out of Spain before the cops could get him. > > > > > There were many tales of cash being illegally moved to other > > > > > countries. > > > > > > > > > > On the other end: Maharishi is said to told someone to drive fast > > > > > and not care about the speed limits. Maharishi gave everyone salt > > > > > and peanuts on the courses even though it was "wrong." > > > > > > > > > > Think about the mind-set of the MUM officials when that guy stabbed > > > > > the other guy. THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- cover the movement's > > > > > ass and save face AT ANY COST. > > > > > > > > > > They all just did what they wanted to do and figured out "words for > > > > > it" later. No morality. No righteousness. Just self-serving > > > > > movement besmirching decisions is all. > > > > > > > > > > It is all made-up on the spot. I'll bet Maharishi decided on the > > > > > first set of mantras in about 10 minutes flat. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > there is NO lying cheating or stealing by the people in the > > > > > > movement you are slandering so carelessly, where is your proof? > > > > > > Likewise you defame Maharishi with absolutely no proof of any of > > > > > > the kind of wrongdoing that you parrot from others. The fault is in > > > > > > yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the idea that everyone does it so don't fuss with particular > > > > > > > people who do it is the same kind of bullshit mentality that has > > > > > > > led to the utterly corrupt practices on Wall Street that has led > > > > > > > to a world wide economic crisis - where is your proof of Gandhi > > > > > > > clan corruption other than what you have heard and read? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read this comment by an English person commenting on the Mayan > > > > > > > flyer articles and I passed it on, much like you are passing on > > > > > > > information and judgement about the Gandhis - I don't give damn > > > > > > > who else lies, cheats and steals it doesn't make it alright for > > > > > > > Maharishi and his family to do it too, especially when they have > > > > > > > been taking money under false pretenses for decades and then > > > > > > > can't even bring themselves to handle the wealth legitimately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I have said before, I believe in results and in manifest > > > > > > > behavior - the kind of behavior that these people manifest show a > > > > > > > low and selfish level of consciousness and the kind of mentality > > > > > > > that excuses it for the Marshy family while reviling others in > > > > > > > India for doing the same thing reminds me of the character of the > > > > > > > Emperor Commodus as depicted in the movie Gladiator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show me the public information that shows without question that > > > > > > > Maha was an honest custodian of the funds he lived off of for > > > > > > > nearly 60 years. Back up what you say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and Barry > > > > > > > because what they relate about Maharishi (who by the way does not > > > > > > > deserve that title) has the ring of truth AND when you put all > > > > > > > the stories together with public statements and actions (like the > > > > > > > scorpion nation episode) you see a consistent picture of an > > > > > > > egotistical, childishly egotistical, horny, greedy con artist who > > > > > > > created a movement dedicated not to the enlightenment of the > > > > > > > world nor the betterment of the individual but to making himself > > > > > > > an icon and living a high and luxurious life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are flat out incorrect when you call these things "baseless > > > > > > > innuendo". Like I said, back up your words - show us the public > > > > > > > information showing that Maharishi was an honest custodian of the > > > > > > > funds he received for 57 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All governments are corrupt - which means the people who run them > > > > > > > are corrupt and that is no excuse for personal or institutional > > > > > > > corruption and dishonesty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: "srijau@" <srijau@> > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:03 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth for Marshy's Kin > > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > when you are dealing with an utterly corrupt government like > > > > > > > India's has been for some time then it should come as no surprise > > > > > > > that one has to resort to things like smuggling gold into the > > > > > > > country. The Gandhi clan is the one that has been single mindedly > > > > > > > engaged in self-enrichment and the level of manipulation of all > > > > > > > facets of government to their ends and against anyone they > > > > > > > imagine to not support those ends is not something that I think > > > > > > > you understand. If you were an Indian you would especially given > > > > > > > the recent revelations of the miraculous enrichment of a certain > > > > > > > person who married into that family. Whatever you claim otherwise > > > > > > > is actually based on a lot of baseless innuendo and there is > > > > > > > public information to the contrary but you are the sort of person > > > > > > > who repeats lies so as to give them credibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A comment on the article about the 8,000 flyers in Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I too am a former TM sidha. I gave thousands of pounds to the > > > > > > > > organisation over many years, but had no more to do with it > > > > > > > > after I got close to an Indian working for the organisation at > > > > > > > > a senior level. He confided in me that the top people close to > > > > > > > > Maharishi had asked him to smuggle gold during his trips from > > > > > > > > Europe and USA back to India!! When he refused they pressured > > > > > > > > him and made him break down, threatening he would have no > > > > > > > > future in the organisation if he didn't comply. Thus was back > > > > > > > > in the 90's when Maharishi was still alive. No wonder the > > > > > > > > movement in India is rich!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=366529 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >