--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this laughinggull. Carol and Emily, > > > this is a good overview of the whole TM world, with 2 > > > comments: TM is absolutely NOT about repeating a mantra; > > > and yogic flying does not involve TRYING to fly or bounce. > > > > Part of it is. The mantra and repetition have to begin the > > process > > Actually not, not if "repetition" means more than one > iteration of the mantra. You could conceivably think it > *once* and immediately transcend, even go through the > whole mantra-transcend-thoughts cycle multiple times > during a meditation without ever thinking the mantra > twice in a row. > > Share, the words "repeat" and "repetition" *are* used in > several places in the checking notes. In most cases, > repetition of the mantra does occur, but it's correct to > say TM is not *about* repetition. Subtle but crucial > distinction. > > (Caveat: I am not a TM teacher. I took checker training, > but I never got around to being certified. If I've gotten > anything wrong, corrections from teachers are welcome.) > > > and hopping around involves energy and effort whether you > > realize this or not. On my siddhis course my friend and I > > were the last to hop and the instructor sat with us until > > we did so. Having languished for days watching my friends > > in my pod plop around on foam and make strange noises my > > friend and I finally looked at each other and let 'er rip. > > We had to try or we weren't going to "graduate" from that > > summer course. Finally we gave in and joined the crowd. It > > was never that effortless to bounce and I certainly never > > flew. So at least on my siddhis course we had to do whatever > > it took to move off our butts and it involved trying or at > > least exerting an intention. Maybe it is all in the semantics. > > The sutras *are* intentions, according to Maharishi. > > FWIW, on my flying block there were several women who > never hopped, and they "graduated" with the rest of us. > They weren't bullied into faking it (as it sounds like > you may have been).
I can report the same (but 'men'). > They weren't happy about not > hopping, but the Sidhis administrator (Georgina Wilson) > told them not to worry about it, they would still get > the benefits of the practice. "Trying" to hop was most > definitely a no-no. Definitely. > Certainly hopping involves muscular effort (although the > extent to which one is aware of that varies); the question > is how the signal to contract is sent to the muscles. > > For me, it's involuntary--it would take effort *not* to > hop. Indeed. It's probably "off the program" but I would often try forcibly 'not to hop'. But hop I did. > It's like a yawn or a sneeze or the knee-jerk reflex. > The signal to the muscles originates somewhere other than > it would if I hopped without using the sutra. > > I remember when I first started to hop, after a couple > days. I had found myself bouncing--involuntarily--without > getting off the foam. After awhile, I let go of something > somehow mentally, and then I immediately began to hop. "Let > 'er rip" describes it, but I don't know whether that's the > same as what you experienced. It's as if I had not been > letting the sutra do its job, rather than that I had > started voluntarily to push myself up off the foam. > > Experience does vary from individual to individual, and > it's impossible to know what it's like for anybody else. I don't think I am a 'TB'. On the other hand the facts is the facts. I find it hard to 'explain away'. Believe me - I've tried (though coward-like I remain agnostic).
