She already responded to your post, and you responded to her response. So obviously it's Bhairitu (unless she's done a 180 in the space of less than three hours).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > > Are you responding to Bhairitu or to Curtisdeltablues here? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" <homeonthefarm@> wrote: > > > > > > What you write here not only confuses the issue with a lot of unrelated > > fluff, it complicates it with unsubstantiated personal opinion and an > > obviously prejudiced agenda. What gives you any authority to make the > > claims you make? Have you personally worked in the research labs? I don't > > want an answer to that for I can see by your style of writing that you > > can't give a focused, non-emotional, objective response. I just wanted to > > express my irritation that you used my question as a springboard for an > > off-topic personal tirade. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 03/06/2013 01:35 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > The key is being able to answer the question: " Is there a test even in > > > > principle, that could show that the theory is false?". It often > > > > involves making the claim more precise. But even your second example: > > > > The brain waves of students practicing TM show increased coherence, > > > > might be unfalsifiable depending on how you define "coherence". And > > > > remember coherence is a mathematical model being applied to the raw > > > > data. It is very easy to massage the numbers to show some type of > > > > "coherence". For it to be falsifiable it must be possible for someone > > > > to go through the test and for them to say "our theory is not valid, > > > > coherence does not increase." > > > > > > > > But that isn't how the movement uses science for marketing. Movement > > > > scientists would just continue to manipulate the data using different > > > > formulas until something they could call coherence could be found. In > > > > TM research, it is never a possible outcome that TM ever does anything > > > > bad to a person, or that positive benefits are not "proven". If the > > > > experiment doesn't show what they already believe, the frame around the > > > > experiment is shifted until it shows something positive. > > > > > > > > Framing a test in a way that is falsifiable requires a detachment from > > > > the outcome. You have to really care enough about the truth to plug up > > > > all the loopholes that compromise falsifiability. We have many > > > > cognitive biases toward winging it when it comes to our beliefs. Few > > > > people really want to go through the hard work it would take to really > > > > test something. > > > > > > > > So yes you need precision in formulating the hypothesis, but that is > > > > not enough. You have to understand how each variable affects the test. > > > > Our big pharma testing system has the exact same problems movement > > > > research has. They are always ready to turn capillary dilators into > > > > boner pills. They are not setting up the research with big bucks to > > > > find out that the pill does more harm than good. > > > > > > > > Lots of New Age "medical" practices operate this way. The results are > > > > so vague that there is no way for you to conclude that it just didn't > > > > work. Every result has an explanation, but the system itself is never > > > > tested rigorously. > > > > > > Of course the problem there is that alternative medical practices simply > > > don't have the money to do such testing. And some of those cures are so > > > simple including ones that are even "kitchen cabinet" just using herbs > > > you may have there. No money in that for big pharma so instead they try > > > to destroy alternative medicine so they can sell you expensive cures. > > > Unrestrained capitalism is a crime against humanity. > > > > > > That said, fortunately over the years some of the simple cures do get > > > tested. I recall that in the 1970s a dentist in Florida had some > > > program to use just baking soda for dental care. Of course he was > > > lambasted as a "quack". Now go to your supermarket and take a look at > > > toothpaste that includes or advertises baking soda used. Ayurveda > > > suggests turmeric or even triphala as a mouth wash to prevent > > > gingivitis. I have use Crest's Total Health which I noticed is as > > > astringent as those two herbs and would bet that astringency is at the > > > basis of the cure. > > > > > >
