sounds good man. I'm the same way regarding attitude towards regimented lifestyles. Not that I can't handle a regimented lifestyle, but if things don't come natural, then they're not real. I'm not advocating being an alcoholic or pure meat-eater, but at the same time I disdain some of the self-righteousness I see among people who try too hard to live a pure life.
seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Oh no seeklib - no holistic or any other regimented lifestyle for me ever. In > fact I met someone yesterday and I was glad I did because she supposedly > started meditating and following a yogi lifestyle. But she seemed so perfect > the way she was and I quickly dissuaded her from meditation and/or any other > life-numbing regimented practices. I think she understood what I was saying - > I hope she remains uncorrupted. Anyway I will try my best when if and when I > meet her again. > > So yeah a few beers sounds awesome seeklib - you seem like a real nice guy. > Let's forget about all this stupid confrontations. > > Ravi > > On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@...> wrote: > > > we can always just go out and have a few beers instead....if i'm out that > > way anytime in the future, unless of course you don't drink. I'm assuming > > you may be more into a holistic lifestyle that doesn't include alcohol, but > > I also know quite a few meditators that will go on a splurge once in a > > while. For me, it's one of my 'mediocre' activities (among others). > > > > seekliberation > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Close to Camp Pendleton - but seeklib I have some terrible news, the Feds > > > pulled the plug on this whole thing - god just when I had a chance of a > > > confrontation with someone from FFL. That's the thing with Obama - some > > > wonderful things and some not so wonderful things. This is why I feel so > > > good reading Xeno, I feel safe, secure, seemingly unaccountable for > > > anything because I know there are excellent things, good things and > > > average, mediocre and bad. No one is perfect - everyone has flaws. OMG - > > > this platitude waving, fence sitting language is really turning me on. I > > > feel myself slipping into Unity from this bliss that's arising after > > > diminishing life's complexities into a set of platitudes. > > > > > > No worries seeklib - so I'm fine. We can still meet, we will adapt - on > > > the streets somewhere - it's all good. > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> wrote: > > > > > > > What is the name of the place you run? Is it on Camp Pendleton, or just > > > > near it? I've never been at Pendleton for any longer than a couple > > > > months, but some of my friends said that there are some pro/ameatur > > > > fighters that come and train with them on the base there. Glad to see > > > > your sense of humor is still intact. > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No, no seeklib - this is all legal, legit - federally approved, > > > > > funded centre that I run where we have controlled, combat style > > > > > confrontations - so yeah bring all your combat gear. I mean I > > > > > undertook a massive research on how to reduce butt bleeding for fence > > > > > sitters on spiritual forums. I am surprised a military man like you > > > > > has never heard of this. Yeah I'm a very popular man at Camp > > > > > Pendleton - here's a photo of mine on a completely unrelated blog post > > > > > > > > > > http://ravirawat.blogspot.com/2012/12/women-prefer-thin-men-over-macho-males.html?m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:48 PM, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in the military, so it's likely I could get stationed there > > > > > > some day, and I go to training there once in a while. Whenever I go > > > > > > anywhere for training, I try to find a school to train at just for > > > > > > a day or two by paying daily costs only just so I don't lose > > > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as 'physical confrontation fantasized below'....if you're > > > > > > talking about a street fight, or something outside of a fighting > > > > > > arena with some safety measures in place....then i'll just pass > > > > > > your rant off and not respond any further. Moreover, even if it was > > > > > > in a safe environment, if I sense any intention to cause serious > > > > > > bodily harm, that turns this into a self-defense issue, in which > > > > > > case there are no tap-outs, either something breaks, or someone > > > > > > goes to sleep. I'm not engaging in that. Moreover, there is nothing > > > > > > that I posted towards you that should invoke a desire to cause > > > > > > serious harm to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that perhaps you have some place you train at. Do you? If > > > > > > so, i'll get in touch with you if I ever head out that way and try > > > > > > to link up with you at that gym. I never get to train/spar with > > > > > > other meditators/siddhas (I am assuming you are one), so it would > > > > > > be an honor likewise. However....like I said before, if you're > > > > > > looking at a no-shit fight, i'm sure you've got plenty of fighters > > > > > > right there in Encinitas to work with. I know a lot of pro/amaetur > > > > > > fighters that come from there, you don't need me one bit...you've > > > > > > already got your work cut out for you in southern Cali which is the > > > > > > home of a ton of great fighters. Moreover, my career will shit the > > > > > > bed if i'm known to be getting in real fights without due cause. > > > > > > And if an investigation occured, this whole conversation would > > > > > > incriminate both of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > You sound like someone who lives a bit on the edge while I have a > > > > > > career and a wife to take care of, so I have to go the conservative > > > > > > route with this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way...from your posts, i've seen plenty of others say some > > > > > > pretty shitty things to you in the past, what exactly was it from > > > > > > mine that caused you to mention violence? > > > > > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awesome - email me when you are in the San Diego area, I am in > > > > > > > Encinitas. It will be an honor to confront you personally. (I'm > > > > > > > hoping you are not Brain dead enough to think this is some > > > > > > > physical confrontation as fantasized below..LOL) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Till then enjoy your vacation and continue your orgies with Xeno. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:16 PM, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pitbull over a poodle? If you're looking for a sparring > > > > > > > > partner, i'm in NC, let me know if you visit. To keep things > > > > > > > > legal, gloves, headgear, mouthpiece are required and we'll > > > > > > > > maintain our sparring bout in a controlled environment (boxing > > > > > > > > ring, wrestling mat, etc..). I travel a lot, so chances are I > > > > > > > > may end up in your state some day as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are a fucking idiot seeklib - take your fence-sitting, > > > > > > > > > garbage > > > > > > > > > platitude belief system elsewhere or have an orgy with Xeno. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly you have read my posts but it hasn't gone into your > > > > > > > > > fucking head > > > > > > > > > because of the dense fucking belief system you have insulated > > > > > > > > > yourselves > > > > > > > > > with. I don't take insults - I'm a fucking giver you hear me, > > > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > > compassionate you dumb moron - I give, I give insults and am > > > > > > > > > the most > > > > > > > > > coolest, meanest, relaxed person and I hope you are fortunate > > > > > > > > > enough to > > > > > > > > > never meet me because I will be all over you like a pitbull > > > > > > > > > over a poodle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, seekliberation > > > > > > > > > <seekliberation@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dude, take something to relax, soon. I never mentioned > > > > > > > > > > anything about > > > > > > > > > > 'mediocre minds', only 'mediocre posts'. I don't know any > > > > > > > > > > 'mediocre minds' > > > > > > > > > > on this forum at all, but have seen many mediocre posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, TurqB is by no means a dunce when it comes to > > > > > > > > > > his depth of > > > > > > > > > > thought on some subjects....be he has a lot of mediocre > > > > > > > > > > posts where he does > > > > > > > > > > nothing but rant about something (or someone) who is > > > > > > > > > > irritating him on FFL. > > > > > > > > > > That's my example of a mediocre post. Or in your case, > > > > > > > > > > ranting and refering > > > > > > > > > > to me as an idiot, another mediocre post. I've read a lot > > > > > > > > > > of your posts and > > > > > > > > > > know you have a lot better things to share than that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember there was a time when FFL first started, it was > > > > > > > > > > primarily about > > > > > > > > > > topics regarding spirituality, religion, and it's all the > > > > > > > > > > philisophical > > > > > > > > > > topics that I miss. In the last 2-3 years, maybe even > > > > > > > > > > longer, it has become > > > > > > > > > > a soap opera. In every soap opera, you've got your romances > > > > > > > > > > (bonds between > > > > > > > > > > specific posters), you have your villian (TurqB), and > > > > > > > > > > you've got several > > > > > > > > > > other posters who seem to come off as positive or negative, > > > > > > > > > > depending on > > > > > > > > > > everyone's perception. As a result, we have a lot of dull > > > > > > > > > > episodes that > > > > > > > > > > drag on, in which case I tend to stop participating. Then > > > > > > > > > > something that > > > > > > > > > > looks deep or thoughtful comes along (or just something > > > > > > > > > > that resonates with > > > > > > > > > > me), and I like to throw in a sentance or two that results > > > > > > > > > > in several > > > > > > > > > > responses. I'm not irritated by it, I just recognize it for > > > > > > > > > > what it is. Not > > > > > > > > > > every class at MIU/MUM was the greatest, but there were > > > > > > > > > > pearls of wisdom > > > > > > > > > > often enough. Not every moment with my wife, nor every > > > > > > > > > > workout at the gym > > > > > > > > > > is awesome....but i'll always stick with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if you took insult....relax. It's just another lifetime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh seeklib - you are a fucking saint dude - where the > > > > > > > > > > > fuck have you have > > > > > > > > > > been while we mediocre minds were going batshit crazy. Have > > > > > > > > > > you ever met > > > > > > > > > > Xeno - I have a feeling you two idiots will totally love > > > > > > > > > > each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 3:56 AM, "seekliberation" > > > > > > > > > > > <seekliberation@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding 'same old, same old', I can't say i've seen > > > > > > > > > > > > much over the > > > > > > > > > > last several years that doesn't fall into that category. I > > > > > > > > > > will say > > > > > > > > > > however, the last 2 days of looking at posts has been > > > > > > > > > > somewhat atrocious. > > > > > > > > > > Rather than being a deep discussion about some > > > > > > > > > > philisophical point, it > > > > > > > > > > turned into a ridiculous game of ping-pong. But then again, > > > > > > > > > > nothing can be > > > > > > > > > > great all the time. There will always be dull moments, > > > > > > > > > > exciting moments, > > > > > > > > > > and mediocre moments in anything. FFL is certainly no > > > > > > > > > > exception, and > > > > > > > > > > therefore nothing to really complain about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb > > > > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it difficult to believe that anyone can see the > > > > > > > > > > > > > events of the last few days on FFL as anything other > > > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same people repeating the same things they've done > > > > > > > > > > > > > for years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, Judy attempts to lure Curtis into one of her > > > > > > > > > > > > > long, > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I win by definition" arguments by *appearing* to ask > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable questions. Then Curtis falls for it, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > tries > > > > > > > > > > > > > his best to address her questions, while respecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact that she sees things that way, given her > > > > > > > > > > > > > near-absolute > > > > > > > > > > > > > lack of experience within the TMO, and that she is > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying > > > > > > > > > > > > > her best to pretend that the reality of the TMO and > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > things it teaches are the same as that presented in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > intro lectures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As *everyone* here expected, within a couple of posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > was back to name-calling. That WAS the whole purpose > > > > > > > > > > > > > of her > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions in the first place, after all, to open up an > > > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity for her to yell at one of her long-term > > > > > > > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > > > > > and attempt to get other people to do the same. And > > > > > > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > >
