In the New TM Movement the leadership coming next will tell us all a lot about which direction it [the SBS Trust] will go in response to everything that Girish raises with this. We'll see if they can assert themselves with upright control over Girish and his people now.
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You should know that this guy is MMY's nephew. In India, due to their > > > > > belief in reincarnation, nepotism is the norm and is usually > > > > > celebrated as the proper way things get done. The first Prime > > > > > Minister of India was named Jawaharlal Nehru. Coincidentally, Indira > > > > > Ghandi was his granddaughter, and Rajiv Ghandi was his > > > > > great-grandson. > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_India#Prime_Ministers > > > > > > > > > > The swami named in the will to succeed Gurudev was Gurudev's nephew, > > > > > it turns out. Indians just assume that their relatives are the best > > > > > person for the job because the cosmos chose them for it by causing > > > > > them to be born as relatives of the person in power. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, I've heard the rumors of the nephews of MMY being bad > > > > > people for years. But those same rumors say that TM doesn't work, > > > > > that all the research is bogus and so on. It wouldn't be surprising > > > > > if some of the rumors were true. It also wouldn't be surprising if > > > > > some of the rumors were false. > > > > > > > > > > L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been hearing about Girish extorting kick-backs and such around > > > > pundits in the pundit program for some long time. I would not want to > > > > be the Westerners wading into figure out what is going on in the > > > > workings of the TM movement there. Sociopaths are not likely to put > > > > capable honorable people around them either. For as big as it is this > > > > is going to be extremely complicated for Tony and the board of trustees > > > > to manage. I'd really fear for their safety if and when they go over > > > > there to help straighten it out. > > > > > > You mean, that despite the huge piles of money Girish and family have > > > stashed away, and living very well indeed, he felt the need to make a few > > > dollars from kickbacks from pundits? And people in Fairfield know about > > > this for a long time? Bevan and John H knew this and stood by? The > > > Rajas? They all looked the other way? If that is true, then trouble is > > > ahead, big trouble. > > > > > > So Buck, are people talking about this is Fairfield? What is the general > > > feeling about this? About the TMO's future given this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks are only just finding out about this. Within the Fairfield > > meditating community, yes people are talking about this amongst themselves > > as they learn about it. In Fairfield there are different elements to the > > whole meditator community. Only a very few people actually have a place or > > participate at the upper level. Most meditators do not have much contact > > or much interaction with the organizational movement as such. > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Given that perspective by people who knew him when, how did he come > > > > > > to run the hugely lucrative TMO India? And why didn't people speak > > > > > > up? (Maybe they did but we would never know). Why did the American > > > > > > Rajas over there put up with this crap all these years? Surely > > > > > > they must have seen and sensed that things were not right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan, you know our TM organization is not known for its transparent process. > Everything is opaque but they do give us a lot to talk about. However, even > with all the rackets the guy evidently had going in the end it was tax > evasion that got Al Capone his hard time. [Old Proverb: When prominent > people fail, their failure is more dramatic.] The Indian government will > probably have something to say at some point about Girish as its depositions > get going and the fourth estate it seems is already interested and ready to > find out. We'll all know more in a while. > -Buck > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > That said, I've heard the rumors of the nephews of MMY being bad people > > > for > years. > > > > Me too, as soon as the late 70ies. > > > > > But those same rumors say that TM doesn't work, that all the research is > bogus and so on. > > > > I heard those reports from people in the movement who had no doubts about > > TM, > who were dedicated governors, some working in India, no anti TMers at all. I > also saw him giving a talk to movement people late 80ies, it was all about > money, he needed a special introduction, because people there, again no > anti-TMers, were all repelled by him. > > >
