--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
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> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
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> > > > > You should know that this guy is MMY's nephew. In India, due to their
> > > > > belief in reincarnation, nepotism is the norm and is usually
> > > > > celebrated as the proper way things get done. The first Prime
> > > > > Minister of India was named Jawaharlal Nehru. Coincidentally, Indira
> > > > > Ghandi was his granddaughter, and Rajiv Ghandi was his
> > > > > great-grandson.
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_India#Prime_Ministers
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> > > > > The swami named in the will to succeed Gurudev was Gurudev's nephew,
> > > > > it turns out. Indians just assume that their relatives are the best
> > > > > person for the job because the cosmos chose them for it by causing
> > > > > them to be born as relatives of the person in power.
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> > > > > That said, I've heard the rumors of the nephews of MMY being bad
> > > > > people for years. But those same rumors say that TM doesn't work,
> > > > > that all the research is bogus and so on. It wouldn't be surprising
> > > > > if some of the rumors were true. It also wouldn't be surprising if
> > > > > some of the rumors were false.
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> > > > We've been hearing about Girish extorting kick-backs and such around
> > > > pundits in the pundit program for some long time. I would not want to
> > > > be the Westerners wading into figure out what is going on in the
> > > > workings of the TM movement there. Sociopaths are not likely to put
> > > > capable honorable people around them either. For as big as it is this
> > > > is going to be extremely complicated for Tony and the board of trustees
> > > > to manage. I'd really fear for their safety if and when they go over
> > > > there to help straighten it out.
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> > > You mean, that despite the huge piles of money Girish and family have
> > > stashed away, and living very well indeed, he felt the need to make a few
> > > dollars from kickbacks from pundits? And people in Fairfield know about
> > > this for a long time? Bevan and John H knew this and stood by? The
> > > Rajas? They all looked the other way? If that is true, then trouble is
> > > ahead, big trouble.
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> > > So Buck, are people talking about this is Fairfield? What is the general
> > > feeling about this? About the TMO's future given this?
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> > Folks are only just finding out about this. Within the Fairfield
> > meditating community, yes people are talking about this amongst themselves
> > as they learn about it. In Fairfield there are different elements to the
> > whole meditator community. Only a very few people actually have a place or
> > participate at the upper level. Most meditators do not have much contact
> > or much interaction with the organizational movement as such.
> > -Buck
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> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Given that perspective by people who knew him when, how did he come
> > > > > > to run the hugely lucrative TMO India? And why didn't people speak
> > > > > > up? (Maybe they did but we would never know). Why did the American
> > > > > > Rajas over there put up with this crap all these years? Surely
> > > > > > they must have seen and sensed that things were not right.
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> Susan, you know our TM organization is not known for its transparent process.
> Everything is opaque but they do give us a lot to talk about. However, even
> with all the rackets the guy evidently had going in the end it was tax
> evasion that got Al Capone his hard time. [Old Proverb: When prominent
> people fail, their failure is more dramatic.] The Indian government will
> probably have something to say at some point about Girish as its depositions
> get going and the fourth estate it seems is already interested and ready to
> find out. We'll all know more in a while.
> -Buck
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
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> > > That said, I've heard the rumors of the nephews of MMY being bad people
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> > Me too, as soon as the late 70ies.
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> > > But those same rumors say that TM doesn't work, that all the research is
> bogus and so on.
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> > I heard those reports from people in the movement who had no doubts about
> > TM,
> who were dedicated governors, some working in India, no anti TMers at all. I
> also saw him giving a talk to movement people late 80ies, it was all about
> money, he needed a special introduction, because people there, again no
> anti-TMers, were all repelled by him.
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Accusation doesn't mean he's guilty. You guys go on and on with rumors about
how bad Maharishis' relatives were. Did you really know any of them? Did you
see their homes or cars? I met Maharishi's relatives and they lived very
modestly. They didn't have a car. Some of your rantings and rumor mongering is
really disgusting. Lots of people with money get targeted. You all assume that
Girish is guilty.
