Yes! I really enjoy watching 'somehow' unfold too!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
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> "Somehow".....it's an amazing thing, the soul....:)
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> > From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...>
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:30 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Shermer rebuts Eben Alexander
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> >I have been in the presence of someone who regularly suffered intense 
> >migraines, and someone else just after they had an NDE. The obvious 
> >difference in both was the sense of peace and acceptance experienced during 
> >the NDE, though superficial aspects of the experiences may sound similar.
> >
> >The assumption by Shermer is that the physical existence he  experiences is 
> >the constant, with any existence beyond that, unknowable. This is the view 
> >of life, with death as its foundation.
> >
> >The alternative, that of life as its own foundation, is living the soul 
> >within to be the reality, and watching as it takes on a temporary vehicle, 
> >currently this body, aligns to it, and sets up a dynamic of Self awareness. 
> >
> >Then after a hundred years or so, this body wears out, and the soul shimmers 
> >out of it, and continues its journey of self knowledge, somehow. 
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Allegory of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ" by Pat Devonas:
> >> http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/10741.jpg
> >> 
> >> Dr. Michael Shermer attempts to rebut Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE as being 
> >> genuinely "out of body" and supernatural. (Alexander is a neurosurgeon who 
> >> had an NDE. Claims he traveled out of the body into supernatural 
> >> dimensions in which he met deceased relatives, and listened to the OM.)
> >> ...
> >> Shermer in Scientific American, Apr 2013, 86, essentially uses a 
> >> "similarity" argument coupled with Occam's Razor. Shermer states: 
> >> "Migraine headaches also produce halluncinations, which Sacks [neurologist 
> >> Oliver Sacks] himself has experienced as a longtime sufferer, including a 
> >> 'shimmering light' that was 'dazzlingly bring'" etc, etc, clouds, blah, 
> >> blah. 
> >> Then Shermer goes on to make the comparison:  "Compare Sack's experience 
> >> with that of Alexander's trip to heaven, where he was "in a place of 
> >> clouds. Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the 
> >> deep blue-black sky.  Higher than the clouds - immeasurably higher - 
> >> flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving 
> >> long, streamerlike lines behind them.".
> >> ...
> >> Then Shermer says "In any case, there is a reason they are called 
> >> 'near'-death experiences: the people who have then are not actually dead". 
> >> Also he inquires how Alexander could have a memory of the experiences.
> >> .
> >> Finally, Dr. Shermer states "To me, this evidence is proof of 
> >> hallucination, not heaven."
> >> .
> >> [his arguments on the whole are similar to those of Sam Harris].
> >>
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