--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Experiences like these are part of the reason I no longer believe > "enlightenment" tied up in a neat package the way Marshy described it even > exists - I think the old rishis in the ancient times were having all these > self created opium dreams (brought on by inhaling too deeply of the forest > floor molds) and made a complex system of ideas all about the experiences. > > I have read and heard too many accounts of people like Mark > Landau and Robin who have what sound like truly fabulous > experiences for months or years and then start just being > regular people again, same with the Rama-man.
FWIW, Robin's case is more complicated than that. After 10 years of stable, 24/7 Unity consciousness, it took him *25 years* of the most intense, determined effort to get back to being a "regular person" again. According to him, it was exceedingly difficult and involved great suffering. I don't know what that says about the nature of enlightenment, but my guess is that one can't really say any one example of this sort of thing is the same as any other. One needs to look at them on a case-by-case basis. > I think that maybe we can all experience a plethora of states of awareness, > alternating in flavor and intensity but who knows what the bottom line on all > of it is?