--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <snip> > > I am guessing judy's view is imagination based also, but I invite > > her to explicitly dewscribe what she thinks a club looks like and > > what happens inside. > > If you think my view of strip clubs depends on what > I think they look like and what happens inside--other > than women dancing nude for men--you haven't understood > my objection. But that's been obvious for a while now.
And I have invited you to tell us what your objections are. Thus far you have just been dismissive, IMO, and said its too depressing to contemplate that in todays age an intelligent person doesn't understand how strip clubs objectify woman. I am afraid its not my nature to be guilt-tripped and slink away in shame when loaded terms are cast, if that is your intention. Maybe its not. Regardless, once and for all, explain your position. I am open to your views. I am not seeking to win arguments here, but am seeking understanding. Did you read my prior post on my view that society and media creates a strong fog of objectification in many. And in my experience, exotic dance clubs help in de-objectification -- that is helps some gain better balance of internal values one has for various attributes of women. To understand such a view does require a reality-based view of what occurs in upscale clubs. I infer, perhaps incorrectly, that your view is not close to reality based, but an imagination based-view. Thus what you believe goes on on strip clubs is relevant to the above point,IMO. But for starters, go ahead and explain your objection. It appears to be singularly based: women dancing nude for men, outside the context. If context is unimportant then it raises a lot of questions: Do you object to women dancng nude for an audience in a Broadway play? Do you object to Mardi Gras dancing of women for beads? I know, they are only topless for the most part, but so are the dancers in 80% of strip clubs. Do you object to women dancing topless, or flashing guys, at a college party? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
