Dear Ann, thank you so much. I loved what you say and that was definitely more pleasurable than the reading. Like I said it was a chore and it just a spontaneous decision to offer you a reading, something I regretted later, because I don't enjoy it as such, much like work since it doesn't really represent who I am as a person, it's just dry, intellectual analysis.
So in that astrology is a real abstraction, and doesn't capture the beauty, the essence of the living reality and the person. I suppose it can just be therapeutic, a kind of psychosomatic relief. Not in your case since you may have already learned your lessons, but it can be very validating for someone who is struggling, for acceptance - validating to hear it be confirmed from the analysis. Perhaps it was a ruse, for my ancestors - in the name of astrology,like the modern day therapy. Surely I think therapy is way way superior, in the modern context but I have personally seen who people use therapy, insights into themselves into limiting themselves, blaming others. So it's not astrology, philosophy, therapy as such but the lessons the individual takes from these - responsibility, accountability, self-honesty - acceptance, being authentic and as such. Anyway - thank you for your response. As I can see it may have been a hit somewhere and a miss elsewhere- there is so much to look at and I was trying to get a quick, concise summary and so didn't spend a whole lot of time. Just wanted to demonstrate my spin on astrology. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > Dear Ann, > > > > First off, let me remind you again that I use astrological analysis for > > personal growth - nothing less, nothing more. It only strengths, > > weaknesses, inclinations, challenges, influences in various domains of > > life. The unique, personal consciousness of the person under > consideration. > > It does your destiny in a sense, doesn't show free-will, would a good > tool > > for understanding one-self, tuning oneself in meeting reality. > > > > I have an analysis below. Understand this is what your chart shows. You > > might be already aware of many of your challenges, of your inclinations > and > > you certainly may have already overcome or addressed them, especially > > considering how you come across on FFL. > > > > Of course I might have been completely off the mark - anyway I will wait > > for your feedback. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > You are a very self-focused individual, hardworking, reliant, > disciplined - > > you, most likely at a young age were compelled to take responsibility > owing > > to family circumstances. You were either through your or other's > > perceptions counted on to be the elder, regardless of if you were not the > > eldest of your siblings or not, you were the major influence, had the > major > > say in your family. > > > > You have a powerful need to be nurture and be nurtured. You spend a lot > of > > your effort,energy into creating a secure home for yourself - probably > > stemming from your childhood. Mostly extremely attached to your mother > and > > not the father, yet there is lot of friction with the mother, with > > feelings. You get involved or get caught up, willingly or unwillingly in > > lot of family drama. OTOH your relationship with your father created > > feelings of being un-tethered. > > > > You can also get caught up in emotional upheavals, melancholy, this sense > > of burdened by being the go-to person, an obsessive emotional hang-up, > > matters involving death, dying. (All this the sign of Scorpio being your > > ascendant with Moon, Saturn and Rahu - yes Rahu and the ascendant lord in > > the 4th house). > > I am not generally one to feel 'burdened by responsibility although I have > taken on a lot of it in various forms and I did not feel the weight of the > family situation as something for me to solve. However, when it comes to > death and dying just call me Woody Allen. I have been > obsessed/intrigued/conscious of it for most of my life and I still am. And > there is definitely a wide streak in me that loves the macabre, the > horrific, the strange although I also respect the need to keep all of that > at arm's length as it has power to get into your life where it has no > business. I have witnessed and had experiences of the clear existence of > evil and the great power that it possesses, long before my time with Robin. > > > > > The predominant influence of Scorpio makes you exceptionally intuitive, > you > > love to see through, gather the motivations of others. You are totally > > turned off by superficiality, in-authenticity You have a presence, you > > radiate a natural power because of this influence. > > I would love to think this was true, and I have to say, at the risk of > sounding prideful, I believe it IS true. This paragraph is a pretty good > summation of some of what I am about. I also hope that I am not a hypocrite > in that I would like to think that I also come across as authentic and > real, for that is how I feel and it is what I value in others. > > > > > So the way to release the tension from the issues, the burdens of the > > emotional upheaval, over-reliance on self - presented earlier is you > being > > involved with your home and your spouse - this relaxes you. Being > involved > > with spouse in social circles of higher knowledge, you may have met your > > spouse in such a fashion, you value your spouse for his knowledge or you > > look up to him as such. > > I respect and love my husband because he has a generosity of heart. He is > not a great intellect (although he is very intelligent and this emerges in > the form of a refined aesthetic, an ability to tap into places where great > humour resides and a one-pointed intention to excel at the things he > loves.) but I think what attracted me to him initially was a very bad boy > persona, a spiky kind of spunky personality. This turned out to be the > result of some intense personal pain he was going through at the time but > it sure made for some passion between us physically and mentally! (His > birthday is November 15, 1949 at about 10am.) > > So we did not meet at any lecture on Wittgenstein or TM rounding course we > met at a local TV station where I was working and he was the host of a > local (very local) talk show. Actually, my husband is a bit like my mother > (and they got along famously) in that HE is a huge 'maker' of the home (he > has a lot of woman in him) he is not someone you are going to sit down and > get into any large philosophical discussion with but he is someone who will > drive out at 2am in a blizzard to rescue your cat from a tree, he is the > guy who will spend all day in the pouring rain finishing a roofing job for > you and he is the guy who personally nursed my dying father after flying to > Florida to spend 10 days looking after him even though my father was not > always the most loving to my husband. (Here is a funny aside; my father > always wanted a son but had three daughters instead. I became the 'son' he > never had. I excelled at sports, was a bit of a tom boy. My husband's > mother always wanted a daughter and had three sons. My husband became the > 'daughter'; he was given a kitchen play set and tea set and used to serve > his brothers pretend meals and tea as a young child. He was also the > youngest in the family.) > > You have a natural respect for men that present > > higher knowledge - these are attractive qualities for you. Knowledge is > > fun, knowledge and fun, pleasure are not contradictory for you. They go > > hand in hand. Spouse is an area of fun, knowledge and relaxation (Venus > and > > Jupiter in the 11th house). > > My husband has shown me the intelligence of his heart. He has shown me the > intelligence of vulnerability and generosity. Things I only learned of > later in life. I was a hardass as a younger person - judgmental, > unempathetic and a hater of the human race. I always loved nature and > animals and being alone. I favoured men over women. I have changed a lot. > It has been a combination of my getting beat up so badly emotionally when > my sister died and also experiencing what I did during my time at WTS, > especially the devastation at the end of things that morphed me into a much > nicer person, a much wiser person.. > > > > > The ideas of a reform, freedom, justice, equality are very important for > > you, in a concrete sense - you can be a trouble maker and pulled the plug > > on where you saw these compromised People view you as a dynamic and > > enterprising in this aspect (a little tainted by my knowledge of your > time > > with Robin, but it's there in your chart) > > All of this is correct. > > > > > You are a very charming, diplomatic communicator - always seeking middle > > ground, playing devil's advocate, covering all contingencies and > > possibilities, your opinions always with qualifiers, contingencies. You > may > > also be fascinated with visual imagery, symbols, myths - because of your > > Mercury in the 12th house (Sun & Mercury in the 12th house in Libra) > > All of this is right on. > > > > > You yearn, desire to leave your mark as a intuitive, compassionate, > > sensitive, perceptive as your contribution, in the areas of the inner > > search of truth, spirituality. > > I am not a consciously seeking person who would frame her life with the > different teachers and teachings she has pursued. I am a freestyler, I > simply live. If I were to want to leave any mark at all in this life it > would be in my desire to leave behind love, the results of having loved > something well enough that it would not have suffered at my hands and might > even have blossomed a little at having known me. > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > That's all I have for now dear Ann, it's just a basic analysis - I didn't > > cover many aspects because there's lot more that can be said. May be > > depending on your feedback I may have more, or I may go back and come > back > > with something I missed or the other areas that I have completely > skipped. > > > > >
