--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > Yogic flying is all about getting off the ground while performing > > > samyama. IT don't matter how. > > > > It matters if you are selling a *claim* of defeating the laws > > of nature and giving people super powers. But if you aren't.... > > > > > > Even at its most extreme, I always took the rhetoric about the TM-Sidhis as > concerning control or mastery, or at least working with the laws of nature, > not defeating them.
It's the same thing Lawson, defeating gravity is the same as mastering it, it no longer affects you. > MMY used to say that the laws of nature in the vicinity of our planet were > stupid and needed to be woken up [by group meditation and group practice of > the TM-Sidhis]. The laws "in the vicinity" of our planet are stupid? He clearly never studied physics like he claimed then, for they are the same everywhere. He never talked in terms of defeat. > > > > Legend claims that eventually people are able to sit in the air, but > > > whether or not someone floats or ever has or ever will is immaterial > > > > The claimed effect of coherence in collective consciousness will > > be massivley enhanced if people float wouldn't it? Sounds like > > that would be the whole point. > > > > Assuming that were possible, of course. However, the effect allegedly works > whether or not any person or group of people float or in fact, ever can float. > > > > as far as the purpose of the TM-Sidhis is concerned. IT's all about > > samyama and the physiological effect on the nervous system from doing > > samyama with specific sutras. > > > > > > I'd hold off on speculation on how levitation, floating stage, works > > > until someone has shown levitation, floating stage. Otherwise, you're > > > like John Hagelin, making public statements for the sake of his beloved > > > guru. > > > > Is that irony? I can't tell with you..... > > > > Well, John Hagelin convinced himself, just as MMY did, that success in the > siddhis was "just around the corner," and his rhetoric for the past 30 years > has reflected that. I guess he has to say that, if anyone was to assemble the ranks in the dome and say that it's all obviously a load of crap it might affect sales somewhat. Still, you can always do it for pleasure... > L > > > > > > L: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" <cardemaister@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is London penetration depth the reason why YF needs muscle power? > > > > > > > > Wiki: > > > > > > > > Near the surface, within a distance called the London penetration > > > > depth, the magnetic field is not completely cancelled. Each > > > > superconducting material has its own characteristic penetration depth. > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect > > > > > > > > > >
