--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > I have to admit that I did always find meditating in group more fulfilling > somehow than singular meditation. Now that is meditation mind you, not TMSP >
Just meditating. That is a fair observation. I interview folks in the larger TM meditating community here all the time and also when I travel and i commonly find your sense about meditating v TMSP. Most people here will say they are meditators [TM] but don't do the TMSP when you ask about their spiritual practice. An irony in the recent opening of a movement meditation hall in downtown Fairfield is that they sought to not accommodate meditators who would come to meditate. [Need a Course Office TMSP Badge exclusively to meditate there] They [the strict preservationists] seem determinedly out of touch with the meditating community as it is. -Buck - the Dome experience with Jack Bodger constantly cracking his knuckles, people whoopin' and hollerin', many sleeping, many just sitting there and watching the flying (so-called flying) was a circus more than anything else. > > The one thing I did enjoy was the time Big Bopper Bevan stood up before the > beginning of program to announce in an obviously peevish voice that coming > over to him while he was "resting" after the flying to ask him questions was > ABSOLUTELY NOT legitimate. > > Oh and by the way Buck there ain't no meditation groups in these parts. > Everyone is too busy out trying to catch a photo of the space bros making > crop circles, but so far no luck. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Buck <dhamiltony2k5@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:05 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome > > > >  > > "Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual aspirants as > well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together increases the degree of > Self-realization of each member of the group by the law of invisible > vibratory exchange of group magnetism." > > â"Paramahansa Yogananda in Seeking God Together > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > Are you leaning in that direction yourself, Buck since you are realizing > > > that Bevvie and Company are not going to let go the reins of power until > > > the Black Camel kneels outside their tent? > > > > > > > > > > MJ, good question. Like many meditators I am a practitioner and not > > necessarily a devotee. In groups meditators commonly go where the field > > effect of shakti is of the greatest benefit. [natural tendency]. Like most > > I look to the TM movement just to facilitate my meditation and to providing > > a group meditation. Nothing more. Evidently I am much more in line with > > Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] than most any of the TM movement now on > > this. > > > > All wishing for the Maharishi-TM movement is that they would do a better > > job of facilitating the group program and the Meissner Effect of group > > meditation. They have failed miserably at that and for that by good > > science the leadership should be held accountable for as a crime against > > humanity. Look back at any of the glossy TM publications for the last 40 > > years and it is the same guys in the thumbnail photos in charge. > > > > The obviously discouraging thing verified recently when the Prime Minister > > answered questions last month live in Fairfield is that he was unchanged. > > Was a sinking feeling for the TM movement and all that the re-certs are > > valiantly trying to do bringing TM back watching him lead that so-called > > community meeting particularly where he shut up the only person in the room > > starting to bring up substantial points around communal fear, lack of > > transparency, and the TM anti-saint policy. > > > > It must be very discouraging for the progressive Hagelin-ites trying to > > re-ignite a meditating movement dealing with Bevan the stick in the mud > > when Bevan holds the trump cards. Actually I know it is. Everyone from > > the top down is waiting for the fat guy to retire or die. The black camel > > kneeling thing. When that happens like in all post-charismatic movements > > sensible things can get done by corporate consensus afterwords. There is a > > lot of precedent in history for that. But then TM'ers don't study history > > to know, I am just a journalist. However, I still like this YouTube clip > > the best to see what is going on in TM now. It is very exciting. Of > > course skip the advertisement in the beginning but see it through to the > > finish: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSl-6aC6GEQ > > Spoiler: spot Orb to the end! > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Buck > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:27 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > Dear MJ; Yur evidently being jaded such by the past bad behavior of TM > > > and its leaders, MJ given the science and experience of meditation now I > > > am concerned that you are not in a group meditating. I have noticed > > > that the Yogananda people are open to having people meditate along with > > > them in their group meditations. They can have very powerful group > > > meditations [field effect] that one can sit with when traveling away. > > > Look for SRF on the web. I was just up in Minneapolis and they have a > > > real nice meditation place. Turns out that Yogananda taught there in the > > > 1920's for some time and they have had a group meditation since. They > > > have a silent practice that other meditators can sit in with so long as > > > you are not disturbing their practice. Look on the web for a place. > > > SRF group meditations might be a good tip for other notable disaffected > > > meditators here too. > > > Kind Regards, > > > -Buck > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > and you believed him? What did you expect him to say that they are a > > > > bunch of elitist lying thieving crooks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Buck > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:27 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not All TM'ers Welcome > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > Really nice TM Guru Purnima meeting in the Dome last nite for Badge > > > > holders or course office vetted only. Nothing so secret though was > > > > said that the rank-and-file movement's meditator or even just any > > > > public non-meditator would not have been inspired by. Was evidently a > > > > lost opportunity to have asked the old meditators of the community back > > > > in like the old days. However, John Hagelin gave a wonderful > > > > presentation of how the movement is doing. Much progress has been made > > > > since he re-oriented things from the time of Maharishi's death [2008]. > > > > The movement is doing quite well in modern retrofit. You all should > > > > take another look at http://www.tm.org/about-us TM.org. TM is on a > > > > comeback and that is very exciting regardless of any of the past > > > > controversies. Moving forward, > > > > -Buck in the Dome > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are 100% right on this, Buck. Guru Purnima should be open to all. > > > > > I don't know what their problem is. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reconciliation with its meditators?? The leadership has lost itself > > > > > > once again. Incredible. This is a no-brainier, there are two > > > > > > easy days to invite people in on and Guru Purnima is one of them. > > > > > > Instead the leadership wants to split and be contentious with > > > > > > people? It is badly incredible that at a time they are wanting for > > > > > > people they hold out for an exclusivity over this! Shame on them. > > > > > > They seem determined to bury the old meditating movement in the > > > > > > exclusivity of their own fealty testing. This could have been one > > > > > > of the easiest meetings to host in the Domes for everyone and > > > > > > anyone wanting to celebrate Maharishi, meditating, or the work of > > > > > > the movement. They have failed once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TM Guru Purnima; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Meditators, Sidhas and Governors are warm invited. Please > > > > > > > bring your > > > > > > > current program badge* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
