Ha! I loved all of this, Jim :-D
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hope that is helpful - The identity shifts subtly, from, "I am having a great > time!", to, "We are all having a great time", to, "This is a great time!". > Free of distinctions, we simply enjoy. > > Please note that I am talking about identity here, and not necessarily > associated thought or action. Just because you now live in this rather vast > environment, it is still for each of us to learn to clean, maintain, enjoy > and expand it, according to its unique architecture. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hi Share, The identity finally matures enough, to incorporate UC, along > > with GC and CC and all the other stuff. So you kind of end up back where > > you started, only understanding and witnessing the dynamics of all seven > > SOC, this time around. > > > > Because CC, GC, and UC are completely formed within you, all those > > simultaneous capabilities; 24/7 silent witness, perception of all relative > > phenomena, clearly, and the experience that we are in continuous union, are > > always available. > > > > Only, of course the sum is greater than its parts. So after all the tapas, > > sadhana, seeking and searching, the relaxed, invincible personality that > > you always wanted, and already have when you are feeling really, really > > good, takes over. > > > > This can be confusing in the midst of seeking, when even falling in love > > can be double and triple guessed. MMY's reply about marriage is spot on! > > Common sense rules. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, Doc, someone asked Maharishi once if a person in Unity could > > > marry anyone. First Maharishi laughed and then to paraphrase, he > > > explained that differences don't disappear in Unity, they simply don't > > > dominate. > > > > > > When you say from UC the identity will shift, I guess you mean it will > > > shift at the end of UC? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "doctordumbass@" <doctordumbass@> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:08 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > Hi Share, it is a difference in identity. In UC it is still all about > > > *me* and *you*, and how *I* am so much in union with *you*. > > > > > > So although fusion is taking place, it is wrt the experience of *me* in > > > Unity. Ego tripping at its best. From UC, the identity will shift. > > > > > > Make sense? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rory, I don't understand this at all. I thought that in Unity one is > > > > one with all. How could that possible mean being lord of all? Could it > > > > not be that people remain in Unity for decades because there is one > > > > heck of a lot of integrating going on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: RoryGoff <rorygoff@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:00 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who > > > > have remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a > > > > pay-off for the ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord > > > > of all it surveys (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has > > > > > already happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to > > > > > be stuck in UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of > > > > > fundamental integration, for that length of time - unbelievable. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative > > > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if > > > > > necessary, but because they stop making sense, overall, which is > > > > > different. And since water flows downhill, there is not much > > > > > sustained thought in that direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, > > > > > is freer to be whatever suits the moment. > > > > > > > > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to > > > > > the object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity > > > > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear > > > > > completely, paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in > > > > > the moment, encompassing potentially, all and any states of > > > > > consciousness (SOC). > > > > > > > > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is > > > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys > > > > > you coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the > > > > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. > > > > > > > > > > After that, it smooths out - lol > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems > > > > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any > > > > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not > > > > > > entirely true, though, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, > > > > > > and the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of > > > > > > steps, and a pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he > > > > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. > > > > > > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more > > > > > > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that UC is > > > > > > > not the pinnacle of human consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Going public"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he "had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, at least > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping > > > > > > > > > > > > > acid that serves > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works > > > > > > > > > > > > > for seekers, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > child actors, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > about when > > > > > > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, and it > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
