Boss Boss de plane de plane!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote:
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> Yes, me tattoo!
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > OK. I personally greatly enjoyed the story of the seven states of
> > consciousness - Kept me occupied for years, as I continued TM, etc.
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > Yeah, that's what I meant too. It makes perfect sense after the
> > > > fact, but as a map, it sucks, big time.
> > >
> > > That isn't what I'm saying either. Never mind.
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> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > I agree. If a person schemes to become enlightened
> > > > >
> > > > > Not what I meant by "scheme." I meant something like
> > > > > Maharishi's "Seven States of Consciousness"--an outline,
> > > > > a format, a schedule, a list of "symptoms."
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> > > > > >, the very best that they can do is exhaust themselves, which oddly
> > > > > >enough is how awakening happens. So, yes, there never has and never
> > > > > >will be a process followed that results in liberation. The wraiths
> > > > > >on the MUM campus prove that.
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> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@>
> > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > Over the years I've been on this forum, I have gradually
> > > > > > > ceased to believe that there is a universally applicable
> > > > > > > scheme for the development of enlightenment, such that if
> > > > > > > someone doesn't have *this* experience or does have *that*
> > > > > > > experience, it means they are (or are not) enlightened.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some experiences (or lack of same) may be more common than
> > > > > > > others, but you can't make absolute, across-the-board
> > > > > > > "rules" that apply to all individuals without exception,
> > > > > > > any more than you can do it with the experience of falling
> > > > > > > in love. The uniqueness of first-person ontology remains
> > > > > > > just that.
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> > > > > > > My opinion, anyway.
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> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@>
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> > > > > > > > Actually it is true, or at least I have verified it for myself,
> > > > > > > > that pure awareness cannot be destroyed (muddied?) after it is
> > > > > > > > established - Believe me, I have tried, diligently!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The very curious thing, though, is that someone can have a lot
> > > > > > > > of pure awareness established, and yet, until they wake up from
> > > > > > > > their dream of ego-bound identity, and surrender completely,
> > > > > > > > the pure awareness stays largely hidden from view. I look at it
> > > > > > > > as God's game of, "I'll show you mine, if you show me yours.
> > > > > > > > You go first."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > cardemaister wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As per yoga-suutras, when one "reaches" enlightenment
> > > > > > > > > > (kaivalya),
> > > > > > > > > > the guNa-s become
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> > > > > > > > > > puruSaartha-shuunya. AFAIK, there's no force or power in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > universe that could reverse that process...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's the standard belief, yes. Maybe it's not correct?
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> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Robin claims enlightenment *in the past*, decades ago.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment is always *in the present*, never in the past.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Robin does not claim to be enlightened in the present.
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