Rory: 
> > How do you know this is impossible, Judy, if you haven't tried 
it?

Judy:
> Oh, for heaven's sake, of course I've tried it.

Rory:
Yes? With whom? I hope you had company. Most people find it far 
easier and more effective the first few times if they are 
accompanied by a guide, rebirther or the like: one who has traversed 
and integrated the "ignorance" themselves. The "ignorance" can 
indeed be pretty damned scary to go into alone at first.


> > Who is going to make or allow that "slight but crucial 
adjustment" 
> > if not you?

Judy:
> What "you" are you talking about?  

Rory:
Just "you".

Judy:
And what on
> earth leads you to think that it's something
> "you" *make*?

Rory:
If not "you", then who?

 
> > When (if ever) do you plan to make or allow it?

Judy: 
> I plan to let it happen whenever it's
> ready to happen.

Rory:
How will you know when it is ready to happen?





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