Oh the Satsanga of old of the [Christian] West, Like the so called mystic and “separatist” groups of so much history in the European West. There was home [isolated] on the range and now there is Om on the satsanga of the Christian West. Empty writes: This Rock Catholic Evangelical magazine (now called Catholic Answers) has repeatedly condemned the entry of "Hindu TM" along with Buddhist Vipassana into Catholic practice. They consider it all to be the devious subterfuge of the "Evil One" working to overthrow the "pure teachings" of Roman Catholicism. Empty continues: I agree with their premise. TM and its Vedic roots are in contradiction to the Sin-Guilt-Redemption miasma of Roman Catholic and Protestant Christianity. These Western Christian lineages are an Augustinian deviation from original Christianity - which only still exists (to some extent) in the Eastern Orthodox church.
However, the Eastern Orthodox teachings and contemplative practices are solely Christo-centric and have no place (nor need any) for TM practice or theories. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/360843 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/360843 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Like in Fairfield it [satsang] starts as small living room satsanga or meetings in home or in the public community meeting rooms with a teacher, mystic or visiting saint. Friends in meetings. Occasionally it goes straight to a big space like Adyashanti coming to the Fairfield convention center once. But Satsanga certainly lives and thrives in an old fashion too under the radar where necessary in meditating Fairfield, just like in history. It's part of the story. Interesting that so many of these spiritual groups that developed historically had commonly started out around a mystic in meetings held in people's living rooms then going on towards facilitating around that in to organizations and becoming a history. In Europe they would have living room meetings [satsanga?] and then grow in to facilitating groups while defending themselves against the persecutions that would come from the established local orthodoxy, be that the Lutherans, Papists, or Anglicans of their day. Then, eventually fleeing to America. Thanks. Yes, the world could use a lot more piety. FFL could too. -Buck the Pious Nicely put. It reminds me of something I wanted to say about awoelflebater's post on another thread ("power naps"): "Now, these long-term, incessant meditators obviously have absolutely nothing else pressing in their lives to compel them to want to stand up and open their eyes.": We understand what you're saying but it is a common belief in all contemplative traditions that communities joined together practising silent prayer (eg, monks and nuns) have a beneficial effect on the world even though to practical, common-sense types they seem to be a waste of space. Indeed, even the very recollection that there are men and women who forsake the feverish ambitions of the mass of people induces a feeling of calm! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: [Pietist, belief in the power of individual meditation [Quietism] on the divine [Unified Field] – a direct, individual approach to the ultimate spiritual reality of the [Unified Field] – ] TM and Quietist Pietistic [meditating] Fairfield, Iowa in companion as with other historic places like for instance on the Registry of National Historic Places, organized here A to Z.. Other Meissner Effect [ME] group meditators... Amana Colonies Long Meissner Effect group meditations every day. http://amanacolonies.com/pages/about-amana-colonies/history.php http://amanacolonies.com/pages/about-amana-colonies/history.php Brook Farm http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/dcr/parks/boston/brookfarmbrochure.pdf http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/dcr/parks/boston/brookfarmbrochure.pdf Pleasant Hill, Half hour silent meditation twice a day and daily group Meissner Effect [ME] meditations http://www.shakervillageky.org/ http://www.shakervillageky.org/ Whittier, Iowa Hicksite Quakers, National Registry of Historic Places; Settlement era Iowa Meissner Effect [ME] Group Meditation: https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/clients/whittier-quaker-meeting-house https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/clients/whittier-quaker-meeting-house Zoar http://www.ohiohistory.org/museums-and-historic-sites/museum--historic-sites-by-name/zoar-village http://www.ohiohistory.org/museums-and-historic-sites/museum--historic-sites-by-name/zoar-village [Pietist, belief in the power of individual meditation [Quietism] on the divine [Unified Field] – a direct, individual approach to the ultimate spiritual reality of the [Unified Field] – ] ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: In a coming future, meditating Fairfield, Iowa very likely shall also come to be on the National Registry of Historic Places along with other important spiritual practice communities of American and Western history. Going forward meditating Fairfield, Iowa is blazing still its contemporary and revolutionary commentary on 21st Century materialism and spiritual and religious American community. Jai Brahmananda Saraswati! -Buck, in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Yes, meditating Fairfield as a spiritual practice community was never conceived an amusement park. Even right now it is a living artifact of 20th Century American spiritual experience and community. Feste37 makes a very important distinction here. Fairfield clearly is even now a historic American pietist spiritual practice community rooted in the practices of Quietism. -Buck Feste37 writes, “Fairfield is not a theme park, dummy.” Fairfield is not a theme park, dummy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/10/04/holy-land-usa-before-after-the-abandoned-christian-theme-park/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/10/04/holy-land-usa-before-after-the-abandoned-christian-theme-park/ xo