--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the 
> > > > > current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How 
> > > > > would he argue, left, right, or center?
> > > > 
> > > > Define the terms first.
> > > > 
> > > > Evolution is the inspiration for a major form of artificial 
> > > > intelligence theory, afterall...>>
> > > 
> > > I didn't mention evolution because evolution means a process 
> which
> > > has  a goal. ie. Intelligent. The goal being the survival of 
the 
> > > fittest according to Darwinists.
> > 
> > I'm not sure Darwinists would agree that survival
> > of the fittest could be characterized as a goal.
> > That the fittest survive is just what happens--
> > how could it not?>>>
> 
> Then it cannot be given the name 'evolution' as if it has some 
> purpose.

"Evolution" doesn't necessarily imply purpose,
just change over time.

> It would need to be called 'chaos'. All Darwinists believe 
> that evolution is a process based on a need. ie. Intelligence.

No, really.  In fact, the objection some religious
people have to Darwinian theory is that it removes
the *need* for a purpose--doesn't exclude it, but
makes it unnecessary.  The whole shebang could have
arisen on its own, without any guiding intelligence.

Whether there *was* a guiding intelligence is a
religious or philosophical question, not a scientific
one.  Science can't say one way or the other.





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