--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [...] > > > > It DID say that yogic flying was > > > > an obstacle of Cosmic Consciousness (Skt.: turiyatita). > > > > > > Where exactly did it say that? > > > > See: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/cx4ff > > > > Vaj's story seems to have changed a bit since > > that post, though. But perhaps he's discovered > > passages that refer explicitly to yogic flying > > as an obstacle. > > "These are obstacles to samadhi; they are powers > in the worldly state." > > te samaadhaav upasargaa, vyutthaane siddhayaH. > > "samaadhaav": sandhi for locative singular "samaadhau" > "siddhayaH" : nominative plural of "siddhi" > > Hmmm... how big a difference would it make if > one translated "samaadhau" to 'in samaadhi' instead > of 'to samaadhi'? I seem to recall that Vyaasa or > Bhoja comments that siddhis tend to make samaadhi weaker, but they > don't obstruct it alltogether (provided I've understood > the Sanskrit approximately correctly). > For instance in YS I 13 locative singular "sthitau" > which is analogous to "samaadhau", IMO roughly has the > meaning 'in sthiti', despite the fact that translating > it exactly like that (in staying) would sound a bit > awkward in English. Moreover, in a concrete connection > locative usually translates to 'in...', as "nagare", > 'in the city'. OTOH, it's true that locative should > often be tranlated to 'into' (Coulson: end result > of motion).An example from > Coulson: *jale* baalaM kSipati (he throws the child > into the water). But there is certainly not an explicit > verb of motion in the suutra.
"Obstacles IN samadhi" actually strengthtens (pun noted) MMY's claim. All thoughts and actions are obstacles "in" samadhi (for maintaining samadhi). The trick is to overcome them by alternating rest and activity. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
