Re "I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there.":
St Gregory of Nyssa (fourth century) questioned classical antiquity's static take on perfection and claimed that the Christian life is one of never-ending growth - a movement 'from glory to glory' - which would continue ad infinitum in the next life. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote: Clarity starts with unity, and once you start to ramp down on unity and really start to let go and forget about the whole benchmark thing, you have that 'Brahman consciousness' thing. Whatever word you use, you really don't need to use that word, because it will never do it justice. Words that seem to imply grandeur and magnificence are particularly misleading because they ramp up expectation for an experience which is not possible to anticipate. If somebody asks you of course, you have to make up stuff to explain, or use traditional vehicles of explanation, which somebody else made up. I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there, there is always some little picayune insight that one might get about some aspect of experience or other, but now it is just a tiny little faded jewel in a much larger setting, and that larger setting is utterly ordinary, just life as it was, and is, and you don't think much about what will be, since that is what is always happening, just being is all that is happening. If you remember something from the past, that experience of remembering is now, and if you think of a potential future state, that imagining is now, and these imaginings are just thoughts passing in the mind, the substance of those thoughts is not what is real, though at another time, you may have an experience that is related to the thought in your memory. If you read a weather report that says it will be hot tomorrow, and the next day you experience discomfort from heat, there is a relationship there, but the experience that we call heat is not the same as the word 'heat', which can only encapsulate that experience in a rather simplistic way as a mental concept. One person might feel comfortable in that heat; another might be miserable. Thought is a two dimensional replication of three dimensional experience. So while thought can be very valuable for life, something is always missing if your life is lived in the world of thought, and so one's thoughts are always to a lesser or greater extent, a lie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote: Re "This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC?": Excellent comment! But is the next level, Unity Consciousness, the last stage? Isn't Brahman Consciousness then the new goal? Jesus! Does it never end? I'm exhausted. I think I'll settle for the deep-sleep state. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and foes invade, the Unified Field is our all-sufficient aid. Paraphrased excerpt from "Psalm 62" by Isaac Watts: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html
