Transcendental Tolstoy. Dear Feste, It gets better or worst. Forgive me if I sin as doing more in this paraphrase:
>Feste37> wrote: >Oh, Buck, "Paraphrasing" the Bible is OK, but doing the same to Tolstoy is >sacreligeous! "are you a Meditator?" In the War and Peace script, Unified Field Masonry: Tolstoy's War and Peace, Book V: 1806 - 07 Paraphrased: Pierre the non-meditator asking: "Allow me to ask," he said, "are you a Meditator?" Bazdeev the old meditator answering: "Yes, I belong to the movement of the transcendental meditators," said the stranger, looking deeper and deeper into the non-meditator's eyes. "And in their name and my own I hold out a brotherly hand to you." "I am afraid," said the non-meditator, smiling, and wavering between the confidence the personality of the transcendental meditator inspired in him and his own habit of ridiculing the meditator beliefs--"I am afraid I am very far from understanding--how am I to put it?--I am afraid my way of looking at the world is so opposed to yours that we shall not understand one another." “Yes, well we know the outlook,and the view of life you mention”, said the transcendentalist, “and which you think is the result of your own mental efforts, is the one held by the majority of people, and is the invariable fruit of pride, indolence, and ignorance. Forgive me but if I had not known it I should not have addressed this here. Your view of life is a regrettable delusion and a melancholy error.” Yes, and the Transcendental Masons. Dear RJ Das, that is a very good observation you make here. This being winter and a storm upon us now these are my favorite days to Be holed-up inside watching Tolstoy's War and Peace. The recently BBC remastered DVD has a lot more scenes edited in that make an even better telling of Tolstoy's War and Peace. A favorite part is the conversation while at a stage stop of the spiritual iconoclast seeker as Pierre talking with the old transcendentalist there that is given in voice as a Mason. That mysticism is quite a lot like old Quakerism and TM transcendentalism also. -Buck in the Dome http://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-BBC-Production-Box/dp/6304246579 http://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-BBC-Production-Box/dp/6304246579 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote: > Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a > Quaker household, too. But he lived his entire life without > ever saying a word about it to any of his kids. It wasn't > that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It > meant enough to him that he kept it to himself and never > talked about what he thought or what he believed to anyone > else. What they believed was their business, and what he > believed was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism > justice. > Anyone is a "quaker" if they call themselves a quaker. But, if you don't call yourself a quaker then you're probably not a Quaker. Being a Quaker isn't about keeping secrets from your family. There are no hidden or closet Quakers - there is no esoteric meaning to being a Quaker. So, it sounds like your father might have been a Mason - I don't know. There are a lot of secrets with the Masons. One of the rules of Mason is to never talk about being a Mason. They admit to being Masons, but they never talk about the Masonry. They keep all the masonic secrets to themselves. Go figure. Local Masonry in San Antonio On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:36 AM, TurquoiseB <turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > No brag just fact. I'm pointing out that the "fact" you're so proud of is something that most people worth knowing got over a long time ago -- being "deadly serious" about something as silly as religion. Just to offer a contrast, "Buck," my father was raised in a Quaker household, too. But he lived his entire life without ever saying a word about it to any of his kids. It wasn't that it didn't mean anything to him. Quite the contrary. It meant enough to him that he kept it to himself and never talked about what he thought or what he believed to anyone else. What they believed was their business, and what he believed was his business. Now *that* is doing Quakerism justice. Trying to sound more holy or more evolved or more *anything* because of some shit you do that you call religion? That's just posturing and ego-masturbation and embarrassing. Being "deadly serious" about it? Even more embarrassing. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb@ wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote: > > > > Turqb, my people are old Quaker and I too am Quaker and by experience I > > take that very seriously and even deadly seriously, which is why I am in > > Fairfield, Iowa as an attender of the large group meditations in the Golden > > Domes of the Fairfield meditating community. > > Well, if you want to brag about something (being serious) that many people > would perceive as a weakness or a failing, that's your business. > > "Seriousness is not a virtue." - G.K. Chesterton > Om
