It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is
pretty lame.
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the
> need/desire to be "special," isn't that what this
> whole "conversation" is about? This fellow (I can
> only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered
> "special" because he has some kind of stigmata.
> Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to
> remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT
> being "special." He freaks out, but keeps coming
> back for more, because in some weird way, his being
> knows that its "specialness" is not making him
> happy.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way
> you do. You say
> > this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot
> refute saying this,
> > you have put it in black and white. This is the
> threat I am fighting
> > - not against myself as a personality, but
> something bigger.
> > Please don't push me down to where I am not!
> >
> > G: fight what you want ..... there has been no
> threat against you
> > ..... No you do not think like Christ for Christ
> would not make
> > false statments against anyone ..... no one can
> put you
> > anywhere ...... it is only your own mind which is
> constricted ...
> >
> >
> >
> > * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna,
> while it
> > is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser
> knowns, and the
> > living, like myself.
> >
> > G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints ......
> if you wish to
> > call yourself a saint fine ..... go for it .......
> >
> >
> > * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look
> at your
> > attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me
> from any sort
> > of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I
> say those words,
> > Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as
> one is
> > never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything
> that
> differentiates or
> > separates.
> >
> > G: as far as the stigmata ----- show it ...... if
> it is within and
> not
> > for the world then Shut up about it ......... for
> you are using it
> as a
> > sense of pride...... if it is for the world then
> Show it ......
> >
> >
> > * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account
> is under
> > YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from.
> >
> > G: actually it is under the non-profits heading
> and no i don't
> > draw a salary from it ......... but what would a
> bank account have
> > to do with anything ..... again you are off on
> another side avenue
> > that has Nothing to do with anything ......
> >
> >
> > * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are
> hanging in your
> > closet, where others do not walk in and put on.
> >
> > G: actually yes others do put them on .....
> hahahahahaah
> >
> > * And then there is YOUR apartment,
> >
> > G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others
> do come
> > and go here ...... it is open for anyone to walk
> in .....
> >
> > * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that?
> >
> > G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and
> transporting
> > them wherever they need to go .....
> >
> > * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games
> here?
> >
> > G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing
> games ......
> > AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY ------ SHE RELATES TO A
> FORM ----
> > TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE
> > this IS the mind of Duality ......
> >
> > in this Consciousness there is always first and
> Foremost
> > the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute
> ----- the stilled
> > point and from that Shakti or world comes into
> play dividing the
> > Light into lights ---- sounds ---- colors -----
> experience ..... the
> > interaction takes place as motion --- sensation
> ----- when it ends
> > then again the stilled vastness is all
> encompassing ..... the
> > motion is Flow ...... within this it is forever
> Not Two / Not
> Two....
> >
> > When you are tired of playing games then Stop
> ----- and Be
> > Still ----- Let it all fall away ..... SEE what
> remains .....
> >
> >
> >
> > * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I
> use
> > personal pronouns?
> >
> > G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ?
> >
> >
> >
> > * You have bounced me backward twice because of
> the
> > Divine Stigmata.
> > The first letter, you asked where is it now, what
> good has it done
> > to save the masses? (You don't believe in
> missionary work, so
> > why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me
> WHERE IS
> > IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where
> are
> > mine?
> >
> > G: yes ---- and you have not answered Either of
> those
> > questions .........
> >
> > Why is it here two questions are asked and you
> give no answer
> > ..... ? while you have asked and laid out charges
> and
> > questions and i have answered them all ......
> >
> >
> > * Once again, you so cruelly and awfully
> contradict yourself.
> > You say that God - who is not physical is That,
> and you are That.
> >
> > G: yes there is the One Divine Essense of All
> Being ....
> >
> >
> > * Then when I speak of a SPIRITUAL METAPHYSICAL
> > UNSEEN reality, you say it has to be physical! If
> you can't see it
> > with your eyes, it isn't there! If it isn't
> bleeding, it's not real!
> >
> > G: you are the one speaking of Duality ----
> Stigmata is within
> > Duality ..... those who have claimed Stigmata have
> had the
> > Marks to show -------
> >
> >
> > * Here shows up a flaw in your knowledge of
> mystical
> > theology, (let us make a point here. Compared to
> Evelyn
> > Underhill, a '10' in the knowledge of classical
> mysticism, you
> > would be much lower. This is not to say you do not
> understand
> > your own
> > state, but what Underhill knew, you are lacking.
> You do not know
> > everything in this field! Better to be diplomatic
> than
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