It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is pretty lame. --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the > need/desire to be "special," isn't that what this > whole "conversation" is about? This fellow (I can > only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered > "special" because he has some kind of stigmata. > Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to > remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT > being "special." He freaks out, but keeps coming > back for more, because in some weird way, his being > knows that its "specialness" is not making him > happy. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way > you do. You say > > this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot > refute saying this, > > you have put it in black and white. This is the > threat I am fighting > > - not against myself as a personality, but > something bigger. > > Please don't push me down to where I am not! > > > > G: fight what you want ..... there has been no > threat against you > > ..... No you do not think like Christ for Christ > would not make > > false statments against anyone ..... no one can > put you > > anywhere ...... it is only your own mind which is > constricted ... > > > > > > > > * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, > while it > > is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser > knowns, and the > > living, like myself. > > > > G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints ...... > if you wish to > > call yourself a saint fine ..... go for it ....... > > > > > > * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look > at your > > attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me > from any sort > > of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I > say those words, > > Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as > one is > > never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything > that > differentiates or > > separates. > > > > G: as far as the stigmata ----- show it ...... if > it is within and > not > > for the world then Shut up about it ......... for > you are using it > as a > > sense of pride...... if it is for the world then > Show it ...... > > > > > > * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account > is under > > YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. > > > > G: actually it is under the non-profits heading > and no i don't > > draw a salary from it ......... but what would a > bank account have > > to do with anything ..... again you are off on > another side avenue > > that has Nothing to do with anything ...... > > > > > > * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are > hanging in your > > closet, where others do not walk in and put on. > > > > G: actually yes others do put them on ..... > hahahahahaah > > > > * And then there is YOUR apartment, > > > > G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others > do come > > and go here ...... it is open for anyone to walk > in ..... > > > > * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? > > > > G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and > transporting > > them wherever they need to go ..... > > > > * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games > here? > > > > G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing > games ...... > > AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY ------ SHE RELATES TO A > FORM ---- > > TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE > > this IS the mind of Duality ...... > > > > in this Consciousness there is always first and > Foremost > > the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute > ----- the stilled > > point and from that Shakti or world comes into > play dividing the > > Light into lights ---- sounds ---- colors ----- > experience ..... the > > interaction takes place as motion --- sensation > ----- when it ends > > then again the stilled vastness is all > encompassing ..... the > > motion is Flow ...... within this it is forever > Not Two / Not > Two.... > > > > When you are tired of playing games then Stop > ----- and Be > > Still ----- Let it all fall away ..... SEE what > remains ..... > > > > > > > > * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I > use > > personal pronouns? > > > > G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ? > > > > > > > > * You have bounced me backward twice because of > the > > Divine Stigmata. > > The first letter, you asked where is it now, what > good has it done > > to save the masses? (You don't believe in > missionary work, so > > why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me > WHERE IS > > IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where > are > > mine? > > > > G: yes ---- and you have not answered Either of > those > > questions ......... > > > > Why is it here two questions are asked and you > give no answer > > ..... ? while you have asked and laid out charges > and > > questions and i have answered them all ...... > > > > > > * Once again, you so cruelly and awfully > contradict yourself. > > You say that God - who is not physical is That, > and you are That. > > > > G: yes there is the One Divine Essense of All > Being .... > > > > > > * Then when I speak of a SPIRITUAL METAPHYSICAL > > UNSEEN reality, you say it has to be physical! If > you can't see it > > with your eyes, it isn't there! If it isn't > bleeding, it's not real! > > > > G: you are the one speaking of Duality ---- > Stigmata is within > > Duality ..... those who have claimed Stigmata have > had the > > Marks to show ------- > > > > > > * Here shows up a flaw in your knowledge of > mystical > > theology, (let us make a point here. Compared to > Evelyn > > Underhill, a '10' in the knowledge of classical > mysticism, you > > would be much lower. This is not to say you do not > understand > > your own > > state, but what Underhill knew, you are lacking. > You do not know > > everything in this field! Better to be diplomatic > than === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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