Come on Buck - saying that what these folks are doing now stems from being 
initiated into TM is like saying an adult man is a great lover because of all 
the jerking off he did as a pimply adolescent teen.

The Unity folks actually do have programs and a feeling for, as you said, the 
elderly and families with children in stark contrast to the Movement which has 
always looked upon all of us as money producers - the TMO program is, if they 
aren't producing money and support for us, get rid of 'em. 

The difference in the two points of view should be enough to send any sensible 
person away from TM and to something more meaningful. I am happy to report that 
one of my old friends who has done TM since 1972 recently ceased his TM 
practice because he could no longer justify doing a practice he could not in 
good conscience recommend. A good deal of his change of mind and heart had to 
do with the info I shared with him in the past 2 years, much of which was 
gleaned here on FFL. 

All glory to FFL! Jai Guru Truth and Common Sense!
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On Wed, 3/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa  and  Unity Village 
Kansas City
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 2:08 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Maybe the Transcendent is possibly
 more than you are cracking your TM meditation
 alpha-global-coherence
 brain wave TM research up to be and these people are
 transcendental
 meditators still  growing in Spirituality may be as
 something more
 than just alpha wave coherence.  Touting alpha coherence as
 some gold
 standard is not to say that these people have not taken TM
 practice
 in experience in to their lives in different ways, like in
 to the
 heart of the subtle system which Fred Travis and his
 TM-science
 cohorts are not even close to understanding
 spiritually.
 These were pretty
 illumined people
 [Meissner-like Field Effect of consciousness].  I'd
 grant them some
 thing good that came of doing TM as new meditators years ago
 may be
 even larger than global-alpha-wave-coherence in just doing
 TM.   Egg,
 If you came down off your high horse and sat with them too I
 think
 you too could even welcome them as effective [Transcending]
 meditators in life.With Kind
 Regards,    -Buck in the
 Dome 
 sparaig writes:
 The fun thing about such folk
 is that they've missed the point that TM's effects
 continue to accumulate, even 50+ years into the practice, so
 dabbling in it for a few years or decades means that
 they've missed out on the accumulated effects.
 
 Of course, one
 could claim that they have stopped breathing for every
 meditation period as they enter PC immediately and remain
 there, and therefore don't need to do TM any more, but
 no-one has ever been observed to show that so the likelihood
 that all of the Unity people were in that state seems slim,
 to me.
 Transcending
 Meditation, TM ?   One
 of the Unity ministers from California told of an active
 younger
 Unity laity minister who just started TM that found it very
 helpful..
 Everyone older at the coffee table discussion acknowledged
 starting
 TM back in the day,  “Oh yes, TM everyone [they] started
 with that
 years ago.. tried and true”.  “Nice technique well
 taught”.  .
 But  in their spiritual lives they went on to other things
 spiritual
 like affecting healing-prayer and meditation sort of like
 Patanjali
 TM-sidhis of the subtle system in practice of healing and
 prayer in a
 higher level of spiritual practice and
 service.
 In Unity
 congregations, serving both
 the families with children and the elderly-in-transition are
 strategies intertwined for a succession.  Likewise TM
 [Maharishi
 Foundation] is very consciously looking at teaching TM again
 to
 student populations which was so long neglected by the
 TM-sidhis
 centric movement of Bevan and Maharishi's administration
 for years
 and recent decades gone by now.  The Unity ministers
 recognized too
 that the generation of the 1980-90's got skipped, the
 X-er's
 neglecting within their studies the liberal arts, the
 classics and
 spirituality for their MBA's and other technical and
 professional
 degrees got missed entirely by spiritual movements.  .  The
 lost
 generation.
 These particular
 practiced
 ministerial communitarian spiritual Unity people I spoke
 with are
 busy at it providing services to people with younger
 families now and
 looking out for the elderly who are still active but
 potentially "in
 transition"; the older who though elderly are
 independent and well
 before moving to assisted living, moving away to where their
 kids live, or to nursing homes or hospice end-of-life. 
 Talking with
 these active ministers is like talking with the active David
 Lynch
 Foundation TM teachers and some of the successful TM.org
 field
 teachers now.  They have a lot of shakti in their
 work.
 In talking with
 these active Unity
 ministers it's like what we have seen in TM, that the
 WWII generation
 that recognized what was going on spiritually and shared
 their
 success and support by the checkbook is pretty much
 demographically
 gone now.  The traditional WWII generation is pretty much
 gone now.
 Now the baby-boom, the “spiritual
 but not-religious” atheistic individualistic
 'in-it-for-yours-truly' sorts are not yet
 there to supporting
 altruistically much good in community works.   A couple of
 the
 California ministers were saying a challenge in Marin Co.
 California
 where they live is that only 4 percent of their populations
 attend a
 church.  4 percent.  The rest? They go hiking for
 themselves, have
 membership in fitness centers, and may be go to a yoga
 studio for
 their community and spirituality.
 These ministers I
 interviewed over
 coffee were front-line with active large communities who
 were
 visiting back on a conference at Unity Village sharing their
 movement's challenge.   Within TM we have seen this
 trend too as our
 TM elders who facilitated the late 1950's, 60's, and
 1970's TM
 movement with Maharishi have pretty much all passed away now
 with
 their check-books gone too.  There are some baby-boomers who
 are able
 and community minded with resources but they are fewer now
 too from
 the heady days of a few years ago.  A lot of the
 upper-middle-class
 TM meditators left the TM movement in the
 1990's.
 Likewise, a security person there
 reflecting on the Unity Village campus spoke in
 3rd person
 about how just 10 years ago Unity V. was still a happening
 hopping
 place with a lot of people there and has really since
 dropped off to
 not much now in the last five years or so.
 The challenge the
 Unity movement see there with these elders-in-transition
 is that those deeper and sustaining check-books move with
 these
 elderly and consequently those deeper check-books move away
 from
 supporting their local Unity churches and the larger Unity
 movement;
 the baby-boomers are not as able or interested in keeping up
 the
 support behind their parents.
 Their challenge
 as a movement now
 out in the world is the competitive marketplace in
 spirituality where
 fewer and fewer places have demographics with spiritual
 church-attending people.  I sat with some ministers from
 California
 and Texas Unity churches, their comment was around their
 work
 engaging young families and middle-age 40's with
 families with
 programming like schools, services and such and then
 additionally
 attending to their 'transitional-elderly' who
 are being removed
 from their independence around by their baby-boomer kids,
 moving from
 their active communities and churches in to care facilities
 away from
 their communities.
 Like TM
 now, their [Unity] founding
 generations are passed and gone and their successive
 continuing elders then of the 20th Century height of their
 movement (1920-30-40-50's) are
 gone now too with their deep check-books. 
 Like TM now
 is post-founder,
 the trick their Unity foundation boards of trustees are
 dealing with is
 trying to keep engaged whatever subsequent
 stalwart-generational
 members there are of their Unity Churches out in the world
 so that
 when those folks [baby-boom] pass away some of their
 check-books can
 come to support the physical-plant of even their Unity mecca
  -Unity
 Village in Kansas.
  Om,I
 was in Unity last nite and
 meditated there this morning too.  Unity Village, Kansas
 City.   Was
 there last week too passing through.  It was really a nice
 place to meditate.
 The chapels were nice places to
 meditate.  They were a bunch of
 spiritual transcendentalists that came out also at the time
 of the
 New Thought Movements [google New Thought later for
 the fun of
 it] of the late 19th and early 20th
 Century who though fundamentally transcendentalists in
 experience couched themselves in 'practical
 christianity'.  Was a big deal in its time.  Unity
 Village in Kansas City, Mo. is
 sort of like Fairfield, Iowa is now to the TM movement in
 the USA.
 An artifact of a time.-Buck back in the Meditating
 Community of Fairfield,
 Iowa  ......
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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