That's a TMer for you. Tell a person that you consider them so evil that you'd put them on your personal assassination list, and then sign the post, "Kindly."
________________________________ From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com" <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa and Unity Village Kansas City Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education. That is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence. Kindly, -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: Come on Buck - saying that what these folks are doing now stems from being initiated into TM is like saying an adult man is a great lover because of all the jerking off he did as a pimply adolescent teen. The Unity folks actually do have programs and a feeling for, as you said, the elderly and families with children in stark contrast to the Movement which has always looked upon all of us as money producers - the TMO program is, if they aren't producing money and support for us, get rid of 'em. The difference in the two points of view should be enough to send any sensible person away from TM and to something more meaningful. I am happy to report that one of my old friends who has done TM since 1972 recently ceased his TM practice because he could no longer justify doing a practice he could not in good conscience recommend. A good deal of his change of mind and heart had to do with the info I shared with him in the past 2 years, much of which was gleaned here on FFL. All glory to FFL! Jai Guru Truth and Common Sense! -------------------------------------------- >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa and Unity Village >Kansas City >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 2:08 PM > >Egg, Maybe the Transcendent is possibly >more than you are cracking your TM meditation >alpha-global-coherence >brain wave TM research up to be and these people are >transcendental >meditators still growing in Spirituality may be as >something more >than just alpha wave coherence. Touting alpha coherence as >some gold >standard is not to say that these people have not taken TM >practice >in experience in to their lives in different ways, like in >to the >heart of the subtle system which Fred Travis and his >TM-science >cohorts are not even close to understanding >spiritually. >These were pretty >illumined people >[Meissner-like Field Effect of consciousness]. I'd >grant them some >thing good that came of doing TM as new meditators years ago >may be >even larger than global-alpha-wave-coherence in just doing >TM. Egg, >If you came down off your high horse and sat with them too I >think >you too could even welcome them as effective [Transcending] >meditators in life.With Kind >Regards, -Buck in the >Dome >sparaig writes: >The fun thing about such folk >is that they've missed the point that TM's effects >continue to accumulate, even 50+ years into the practice, so >dabbling in it for a few years or decades means that >they've missed out on the accumulated effects. > >Of course, one >could claim that they have stopped breathing for every >meditation period as they enter PC immediately and remain >there, and therefore don't need to do TM any more, but >no-one has ever been observed to show that so the likelihood >that all of the Unity people were in that state seems slim, >to me. >Transcending >Meditation, TM ? One >of the Unity ministers from California told of an active >younger >Unity laity minister who just started TM that found it very >helpful.. >Everyone older at the coffee table discussion acknowledged >starting >TM back in the day, “Oh yes, TM everyone [they] started >with that >years ago.. tried and true”. “Nice technique well >taught”. . >But in their spiritual lives they went on to other things >spiritual >like affecting healing-prayer and meditation sort of like >Patanjali >TM-sidhis of the subtle system in practice of healing and >prayer in a >higher level of spiritual practice and >service. >In Unity >congregations, serving both >the families with children and the elderly-in-transition are >strategies intertwined for a succession. Likewise TM >[Maharishi >Foundation] is very consciously looking at teaching TM again >to >student populations which was so long neglected by the >TM-sidhis >centric movement of Bevan and Maharishi's administration >for years >and recent decades gone by now. The Unity ministers >recognized too >that the generation of the 1980-90's got skipped, the >X-er's >neglecting within their studies the liberal arts, the >classics and >spirituality for their MBA's and other technical and >professional >degrees got missed entirely by spiritual movements. . The >lost >generation. >These particular >practiced >ministerial communitarian spiritual Unity people I spoke >with are >busy at it providing services to people with younger >families now and >looking out for the elderly who are still active but >potentially "in >transition"; the older who though elderly are >independent and well >before moving to assisted living, moving away to where their >kids live, or to nursing homes or hospice end-of-life. >Talking with >these active ministers is like talking with the active David >Lynch >Foundation TM teachers and some of the successful TM.org >field >teachers now. They have a lot of shakti in their >work. >In talking with >these active Unity >ministers it's like what we have seen in TM, that the >WWII generation >that recognized what was going on spiritually and shared >their >success and support by the checkbook is pretty much >demographically >gone now. The traditional WWII generation is pretty much >gone now. >Now the baby-boom, the “spiritual >but not-religious” atheistic individualistic >'in-it-for-yours-truly' sorts are not yet >there to supporting >altruistically much good in community works. A couple of >the >California ministers were saying a challenge in Marin Co. >California >where they live is that only 4 percent of their populations >attend a >church. 4 percent. The rest? They go hiking for >themselves, have >membership in fitness centers, and may be go to a yoga >studio for >their community and spirituality. >These ministers I >interviewed over >coffee were front-line with active large communities who >were >visiting back on a conference at Unity Village sharing their >movement's challenge. Within TM we have seen this >trend too as our >TM elders who facilitated the late 1950's, 60's, and >1970's TM >movement with Maharishi have pretty much all passed away now >with >their check-books gone too. There are some baby-boomers who >are able >and community minded with resources but they are fewer now >too from >the heady days of a few years ago. A lot of the >upper-middle-class >TM meditators left the TM movement in the >1990's. >Likewise, a security person there >reflecting on the Unity Village campus spoke in >3rd person >about how just 10 years ago Unity V. was still a happening >hopping >place with a lot of people there and has really since >dropped off to >not much now in the last five years or so. >The challenge the >Unity movement see there with these elders-in-transition >is that those deeper and sustaining check-books move with >these >elderly and consequently those deeper check-books move away >from >supporting their local Unity churches and the larger Unity >movement; >the baby-boomers are not as able or interested in keeping up >the >support behind their parents. >Their challenge >as a movement now >out in the world is the competitive marketplace in >spirituality where >fewer and fewer places have demographics with spiritual >church-attending people. I sat with some ministers from >California >and Texas Unity churches, their comment was around their >work >engaging young families and middle-age 40's with >families with >programming like schools, services and such and then >additionally >attending to their 'transitional-elderly' who >are being removed >from their independence around by their baby-boomer kids, >moving from >their active communities and churches in to care facilities >away from >their communities. >Like TM >now, their [Unity] founding >generations are passed and gone and their successive >continuing elders then of the 20th Century height of their >movement (1920-30-40-50's) are >gone now too with their deep check-books. >Like TM now >is post-founder, >the trick their Unity foundation boards of trustees are >dealing with is >trying to keep engaged whatever subsequent >stalwart-generational >members there are of their Unity Churches out in the world >so that >when those folks [baby-boom] pass away some of their >check-books can >come to support the physical-plant of even their Unity mecca >-Unity >Village in Kansas. > Om,I >was in Unity last nite and >meditated there this morning too. Unity Village, Kansas >City. Was >there last week too passing through. It was really a nice >place to meditate. >The chapels were nice places to >meditate. They were a bunch of >spiritual transcendentalists that came out also at the time >of the >New Thought Movements [google New Thought later for >the fun of >it] of the late 19th and early 20th >Century who though fundamentally transcendentalists in >experience couched themselves in 'practical >christianity'. Was a big deal in its time. Unity >Village in Kansas City, Mo. is >sort of like Fairfield, Iowa is now to the TM movement in >the USA. >An artifact of a time.-Buck back in the Meditating >Community of Fairfield, >Iowa ...... . >
