That is how I have generally understood these forces of nature described in the Vedas.
I think I mentioned before, that for some reason I always associated the "Troop of Maruts" as perhaps rain bearing clouds. I would enjoy seeing connections being made. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Michael, one way I think about all this is in terms of energy, vibration, resonance and amplification. Indra can be thought of as the word that some people use to describe an energy or frequency that is all around us. A scientist might designate it by a certain amount of hertz or a certain light frequency. Something like that. I think that in the not too distant future, there won't be a gap between science and spirituality and then all these aspects of spirituality will be universally understood from a scientific point of view also. On Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:10 AM, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: you are hilarious! I recall someone on the sidhi preps asked something like that - a nurse I think she was and the Governors said the soma would be there, but would be too subtle to detect with current scientific equipment. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 4/3/14, awoelflebater@... <awoelflebater@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Soma and the Gods To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 3, 2014, 1:49 PM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I just found it interesting - as I said I think, somehow this particular document had escaped my attention. I was told during the sidhi prep courses that we produce soma in the stomach and only if we have soma being produced can we have experiences of "higher" states of consciousness. That's what the governors who taught the courses told us and those would be Greg Palma, Walter Gibbons and Paul Potter (for those here who love to have sources quoted). But nothing was ever said about the gods eating it and giving us blessings as a result. It would be logical, I would think, for the Movement to have used some of their science-y minded people to test the stomachs of meditators for this supposed soma. Not that hard to do. Stick a scope down there and check it out, retrieve samples. I am sure there would have been hundreds of eager participants. Surely, this is so easy to prove or disprove - maybe not on the presence of soma-sucking Gods - but on the existence of soma at least. I had no idea such a tape existed and I wanted to hear from the TM teachers here to see if they had seen the tape and what they thought of it at the time they saw it. That's all.