The basic TM technique is just a beej mantra. Most other schools give
longer mantras more like the advanced technique as the first technqiue.
Beej mantras are often used in ayurveda and jyotish as remedial
measures. Also other schools aren't so concerned about "selling" their
mediation technique and so don't bother with scientific studies.
On 04/16/2014 04:29 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
TM is taught differently than Benson's Relaxation Response, at least.
As to how differently it is taught from other forms of mantra
meditation, that would depend on the teacher of that other form of
mantra meditation.
Samatha (spelling) is described as simple, effortless concentrative
meditation. But it is taught AS focused attention, explained in terms
of focused attention, and the theory that explains any and all effects
is in terms of focussed attention.
From MY perspective, the proof is in the measurable physiological
effects of meditation practice, both during practice, and outside of
practice. The difference between TM and focussed attention practices
become more and more clear with respect to EEG, the longer someone has
been practicing them. TM is a form of mind-wandering. The EEG induced
by TM is the EEG found in mind-wandering, though a bit slower.
Frontal EEG coherence in the alpha frequency band becomes much higher
during TM, and higher still during pure consciousness. Focussed
attention practices don't show this pattern but a different pattern.
As to what this means, good or bad, that's another question, but EEG
analysis of TM compared to EEG analysis of focussed attention
practices shows some pretty obvious differences, especially in very
long-term practitioners.
You can see obvious differences by looking at the EEG here:
http://www.samadhieeg.org.uk/page4.html
and here: http://kenchawkin.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/eeg-graph.jpg
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
So why would TM be any different from any other mantra meditation as
far as effects?
On 04/16/2014 09:53 AM, LEnglish5@... <mailto:LEnglish5@...> wrote:
Have you ever contemplated how you would feel if studies like the
effects of TM on PTSD in African war refugees are at least partially
confirmed by dis-interested parties?
What about if I'm right that Dietrich Lehmann and friends will soon
publish research on TM that shows that TM has very much the opposite
effect on the brain than they found in this study?
http://www.amaye.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/med-connectivity-EEG-tomog.pdf
To my ears, you are sounding progressively more shrill as evidence
mounts that TM practice isn't as stupid as you say it is and that the
TM organization isn't as single-mindedly evil as you say it is.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mjackson74@...>
<mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :
Jesus Buck! Of all the exhortations you might give for me to come
back to TM the idea of examining the research is the worst! The
science is a joke, it is a bunch of people who feed off the Movement
saying here is our finding - believe it cuz we say its true and don't
pay attention to anything else. I finally had sense enough to conduct
my own research into consciousness and into practical reality on the
ground with the TMO and discovered that once I stopped thinking that
all the crappy stuff that happens in life is something good cuz the
Movement says it is, once I stopped turning a blind eye to the abuse
the Movement visits on people everyday (you have been on the
receiving end of that I see from the excerpt of Joe Webber's book
I've been reading) and looked clearly at the results of TM in
people's lives, saw the number of men and women who were quitting for
various reasons I got the hell out and I am gonna stay out. I won't
support an organization
that lies, cheats, steals and ruins peoples' lives with no shame. You
would do well to take a leaf from my book, cause even tho you have
already experienced this, you don't seem to have gotten the memo that
if you fool around with the TMO, you are gonna get treated like garbage.
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