Maharishi used the analogy of a falling leaf. It doesn't go straight down but from side to side, so it takes longer to hit the ground than if it were, say, an acorn. If you were a leaf, presumably you'd have more time to appreciate the surrounding environment as you fell from layer to layer.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Share, I was paraphrasing Maharishi's own description of what advanced techniques do: they make the angle of the dive less, so that we can take more time to appreciate different layers of the mind on the way to the Transcendent, rather than just diving straight in. I have no idea if my physiological interpretation of what he meant is correct, but it seems highly unlikely that the kind of EEG that long-term TMers show, including those who have been taught advanced techniques, can be associated in any way with the EEG that shows up in people who have been practicing other mantra meditation practices for a long time. They're just too different. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Lawson, I'm not sure about the accuracy of your statement that because the dive is shallower, progression to samadhi takes longer. In one of Fred Travis' graduate classes, someone complained that they didn't feel deep in TM anymore. Fred explained that one way to understand the growth from CC to GC is that the depth comes up to the surface. So we might not feel deep. But that doesn't mean that we aren't deep. I'd add that in any case, trying to feel deep is counter productive. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:29 PM, "LEnglish5@..." <LEnglish5@...> wrote: The long-term outcome of all mantras is that they lead to samadhi. Some work faster than others, which, ironically, is the point of advanced techniques: the dive is more shallow, so the progression to samadhi takes longer. So that doesn't explain the striking difference between TM and other mantra-based methods. It's not the fact that a simple, fast-working mantra was being used. If that was the case, then other practices would show the simplest state of awareness slower, but instead, they show it LESS, the longer people have been practicing. L
