In that last part he was referring to me because I have stated here on FFL that 
I practice chi gung, which has nothing to do with religion, nor kung fu for 
that matter, except that some martial arts practitioners use chi gung to 
increase their chi for their martial arts practice. Richard is just a guy who 
likes to disparage anyone that is not a rabid TM fan, frothing at the mouth in 
bliss over every little thing Marshy and the TMO ever did and said. 
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On Fri, 5/2/14, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM 
Movement:
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 2, 2014, 3:20 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
 ---In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote
 :
 
 On
 5/1/2014 7:48 PM, Michael Jackson
 wrote:
  Only to a Marshy/Benjy Creme
 sycophant like you
 Nabster - Curtis comes across as pretty rational and
 balanced to
 people not wearing a My-Guru-Makes-Me-Special
 blinders. 
 >
 
 What you need to realize is that Curtis and Barry sold the
 names of
 the Hindu gods for money and THEN they did a 180 after
 twenty
 years -  so why would anything they say now be
 taken as
 rational? 
 
 C: I've done
 180 on beliefs I held yesterday Richard. Haven't you?
 Your standard for judging rationality from the perspective
 of the past is seriously flawed. But on the other hand I
 don't ever expect anyone to assume anything I say is
 anything, that is up to you to decide its value today. Not
 from the perspective of ideas I once held and then
 discarded. When Lincoln was accused of flip flopping on a
 POV he said "I do not
 think much of a man who is not wiser today than he
 was yesterday."
 
 
 
 R:According to Sam Harris, if a person declares a belief in
 something
 like human levitation, this alone should immediately make
 their
 every statement suspect in the eyes of anyone they are
 dialoging
 with - because asserting a similarly non-evidentiary point
 on a
 religious doctrine ought to be met with similar disrespect.
 
 
 C: I guess it is precisely
 the evidentiary nature of the experience you are referring
 to that is the relevant issue isn't it?
 
 
 
 R: Which is not to say they aren't nice people and
 talented, but even
 common sense would dictate that they be questioned closely
 concerning their own beliefs. Which is not to say that you
 aren't a
 nice person and talented, but you are acting like a  True
 Believer
 yourself, if for no other reason than you are practicing a
 Chinese
 Kung Fu religion for two years and sucking up to Curtis and
 Barry
 now. Go figure.
 
 C: I
 didn't get that last part but I would be the first to
 advocate being highly skeptical of anything I write here and
 use your own proof system and bullshit detector. i certainly
 try to run the same thing on myself and others here but am
 as subject to human folly and personal bias as anyone. That
 means anyone. We do our best and still get it wrong anyway.
 I am happy to approach being less obviously wrong about what
 I believe. That seems like enough to bite off for me.
 
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