S. Richard, My responses are in red letters below:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : Atheists Can't Transcend ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : > Why? Because they can't let go of the idea that God doesn't exist. > You can't prove a negative. I'm not trying to prove a negative. I'm defining the meaning of "transcending" which means going beyond thought, such as "God doesn't exist" or even the idea that "God exist" for that matter. > What do you think? > We are all transcending all the time to a certain degree, if by being transcending you mean experiencing subtler levels of consciousness. We all sleep, dream and then wake up and think things over. As humans we can think, which implies a conscious mind to do the thinking. I don't disagree with your statements here. But, from what I understand, atheists seem to be saying that they can't experience subtler thoughts or at best NO THOUGHTS. So, we infer that consciousness is the ultimate reality. That doesn't rule out the existence of a Transcendental Person, since that's the only other consciousness we could ever possible relate to. But we postulate that the ultimate is one, not two. That's what I think. I agree with your statements here too. But I believe the atheists would disagree.
