---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Jesus Barry, settle down. You realize you sound like someone who has
seriously gotten his buttons pushed. We are just presenting different points of
view. It's all good.
The only thing that bothers me are the vicious personal attacks on people's
livelihoods, including many things that have been directed at you and
especially Curtis.
I have been called the following things by Bawee:
a cultist
a bitch
Squeaky Fromme
a stalker
dumb as a bag of hammers
ugly
fat
a cunt
too rich
spoiled
Judy's minion
That's all I can remember for the moment...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
This rap is for those long-term FFL members who claim that their continuing
*personal attacks* against those who raise questions about the beliefs and
behaviors of long-term TMers are for noble, altruistic, and non-self-serving
reasons. WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU.
We *understand* that you're attached to the things you were taught to believe
by Maharishi and his talking parrots (TM teachers). We *understand* that these
beliefs on your part are deeply established, often so deeply that you do not
recognize that these beliefs were carefully TAUGHT to you. We *understand* that
sometimes the things that critics of Maharishi and his technique and his
organization write sometimes piss you off, push your buttons, make you
reactive, and make you want to lash out at the critics. But PLEASE don't insult
our intelligence by pretending you're doing this because you're trying to
"protect others" from the evil influence of these critics.
You're doing it because you enjoy being angry and lashing out. End of story.
You *know* (as do we) that the criticisms push your buttons, trigger your own
cognitive dissonance, and make you crazy. EVERYONE reading the things you write
knows this, no matter how hard you try to deny it. But there is a simple
solution to this, one practiced by the vast majority of TM practitioners and
believers (and in fact recommended by the TMO itself) -- just don't read FFL.
You're here on FFL after all these years because YOU LIKE TO ATTACK PEOPLE YOU
DON'T LIKE, all in the name of a spurious "spiritual teaching." You're Vedic
Vigilantes.
With very few exceptions, none of you are actual TM teachers yourselves. The
one or two actual TM teachers who regularly attack the critics haven't taught
TM in a decade or more. The others hung around on the periphery of the TM
movement for decades, quietly pissed off because you were treated like
second-class citizens, and noticing that the only time TM teachers *did* praise
you or give you any attention was when you 1) parroted back some "knowledge"
they'd told you to memorize, and 2) when you "stood up for" MMY or TM or the
TMO in response to some criticism. So that's what you *still* do today on FFL.
You've convinced yourself that parroting the things you were taught and
attacking people (especially ex-TM teachers) who no longer believe the things
you believe is "dharmic," the work of God.
But it really isn't. It's just you feeling the need to attack someone. You're
the Vedic equivalent of Ku Klux Klan members, pretending that you're doing the
things you do and writing the things you write to "protect" others. The "TM
critics" are your niggers.
In reality, I think you're all still here on FFL because you ENJOY lashing out
the way you do, and in fact ENJOY the state of near-constant anger your
continued presence on FFL causes in you. You keep trying to raise the question,
"What are these non-meditators still doing on this forum after having left the
TM movement years ago?" Well, we're here because the forum was *explicitly
created* to be a forum on which people can express their opinions about the TM
movement, free from the persecution that would quickly follow critical opinions
if people tried to say these things within the TM movement itself.
But I honestly think that the reason the Vedic Vigilantes are still here is
that THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS IS A TM "FREE SPEECH ZONE." The very
fact that people are *allowed* to say the kinds of things critics are allowed
to say here PISSES YOU OFF. But on another level, rather than just go to some
other namby-pamby TM forum where you'll never hear a critical word, you stay
here. I have to believe that the reason YOU'RE still here is that you are
trying to DESTROY this TM Free Speech area that Rick set up, and drive away
those who actually dare to take it seriously, and speak freely.
We're not going away. Rick set up this forum for US.
If you don't like it -- or us -- why don't YOU go elsewhere? Or just don't read
the things we post. Or read the things we post and try to comment intelligently
about the *ideas* we bring up.
Continuing to attack us personally because we use this forum AS IT WAS
INTENDED TO BE USED raises more questions about YOUR sanity and YOUR motives
than it does ours.
