Reply below.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > I beg your pardon?  When did I ever suggest I was
> > > enlightened?
> > 
> > ****
> > Then why so adamant about your "position" on the topic?
> > 
> > (Further comments on Peter and Irmeli appear below).
> > 
> > After years of delving into these topics myself, I have come to 
a 
> > conclusion - if the important truths involved in the various 
> levels of 
> > realization are so ineffable that the human intellect cannot 
grasp 
> > them, then any concepts that we may have acquired via reading 
from 
> > Maharishi's commentary on the Gita or from Ramana Maharishi or 
> etc. 
> > are limited in value in a discussion between people who do not 
> share 
> > the same concepts.
> > 
> True. It is a strange thing to attempt to communicate the 
subjective 
> experience of enlightenment or realization or Brahman, because it 
is 
> only from the state of enlightenment or realization or Brahman 
that 
> a person can surely go, 'Aha!', and see the similarity in all of 
the 
> descriptions of such a state.
> 
> On the other hand, perhaps it remains useful to continue the 
attempt 
> at communicating such a state in general, because if we trace our 
> link from the senses to the intellect to the Atman or localized 
Self 
> within us, whether we are aware of our Atman or not, there is a 
> recognition, even among the unenlightened, of some element of 
truth  
> within the words of those who attempt to explain or convey their 
> subjective experience of enlightenment, and therefore a possible 
> signpost or indicator for our personal experience, that we may use 
> to strengthen our desire for enlightenment, and hence move closer 
to 
> the goal.
>

****
I think you are agreeing with me here. The remainder of my post, 
which you snipped, reflected on the refreshing value of personal 
expressions of personal experience. :D







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