That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it? Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators interpret the warning differently.
The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis are impediments to samadhi. Maharishi takes a broader view, and assumes the "warning" applies to all the siddhis, but he doesn't consider it a warning in the sense that other people do. Charlie Lutes appears to simply have assumed that the traditional interpretation was right and MMY was wrong. End of story. But Fred Travis' research shows that practicing them produces an enhanced version of the same EEG pattern associated with pure consciousness, and that video I linked to earlier shows a before/after segment of someone who had been on teh Invicincible America course for 2+ years, and how much more enhanced the frontal EEG coherence was in the "after" picture when they were simply practicing TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or actually recommending them as a practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying "destroys the darkness of the world." L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
