Michael, it would be great if you weren't so afflicted with a bad case of foot in mouth disease. You display the symptoms every day, and they just aren't getting any better.
Maybe I can pick up this thread again a little later. Thank you though for the Willytex reference. I think you actually went three days without using it. It's good to stretch yourself like that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : you really are full of shit, just like your mentor Willy - TM IS disguised as something else - its garbage disguised as a panacea. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking Silly boy, you'd probably endorse every tenant of the TM dogma if it was disguised as something else. You can't stop talking about it as it is!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I promote not being getting rooked into TM's bullshit. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking This was the first I has heard anything from him. I am sure he has much to offer. I was just struck at his perspective on this pure awareness thing. I mean, he was trying, really trying hard to convey this concept of a field of pure awareness and then pure awareness as a back drop to everything else. It just struck me as funny because that is MMY circa 1956, and the basis of the entire Vedic and Hindu philosophy. Or as Michael might say, the power of suggestion chicanery promoted by lazy, charlatan gurus* for thousands of years. * excepting of course, whatever teaching he (Michael) may be promoting at any given time. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : I have enjoyed listening to Tolle occasionally, simply to hear another perspective, but I find his kind of teaching for serious seekers, very limiting - no technique. Yeah, because TM works so impersonally, and almost invisibly, I have seen several people, having had their awareness primed, so to speak, with TM after a few years, suddenly discover the "actual true Way" with some other teacher or technique, and suddenly set about denigrating TM and Maharishi. Usually happens with those who are not much inclined to self-reflection - funny to watch. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : It's really pretty hilarious. You've got this guy who is considered an apostle of new age thinking, and what's his sage advice to those who might look to him for guidance? "Know that you are not the object of perception" "Notice the space between thoughts" And how to do that? "Well, just keep reminding yourself!" And then you've got someone like MJ who had clear transcending with TM, clear experiences of no mantra, no thoughts, (egads, Is that pure awareness?), and now insists he was a victim of the power of suggestion, and eats up this Eckhardt Tolle stuff. As our resident philosopher says, "You can't make this stuff up!" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : What Steve is saying is that in terms of teaching spiritual concepts, Maharishi could whip Tolle, with one hand tied behind his back. No shit - Tolle has nothing to say of any importance, except wishful thinking and empty fantasies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with other thoughts and activity. It may be the first I really listened to anything he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching. I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise. And no, I am not selling anything! Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion. Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this. He offers indirect means. Not saying its better or worse. But its being presented as though its a fresh insight. Nothing new about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <cardemaister@...> wrote : How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and choose presence instead. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Preview by Yahoo