What I said summed it up actually - Marshy was a scribe - even by vedic standards he had no business setting himself up as a guru. Fleet's dream is an illusion.
________________________________ From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Relating to spiritual teachers (was Re: 8/12&13/14-Maharishi...) Sums it up pretty well, I think. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : You stick with the nightmare, I'll stick with the dream. OK? OK. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Horseshit horseshit horseshit - all a bunch of lets find excuses for Marshy's behavior - and he was not from the warrior caste - he was a scribe. Kayasthas are traditionally considered to be members of the literate scribe caste, who acted as record-keepers, keepers of public accounts, writers and administrators of the state. So he was in his dharma when he was secretary to GD - he stepped out of his dharma when he created the persona of a spiritual teacher, probably in response to his father yelling at him to get off his lazy ass and get out of his house after he slunk back home when the new Shankarasharya kicked his ass out of Jyotir Math after GD kicked the bucket. ________________________________ From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Relating to spiritual teachers (was Re: 8/12&13/14-Maharishi...) Maharishi was not exactly a kumbayah type of guy. Many of the things he did, were meant to challenge people's boundaries. He operated as a teacher, but came from the warrior caste. So he waged war on ignorance, constantly, through his teaching, and the way he structured his organization. Which is not to say, that to question what he did, labels any of us as ignorant, any more than to blindly agree with him, means the opposite. He was a very provocative person, and would be pleased no doubt, to see that he stirred up so many questions within you, with his rajas. That questioning is the key, I have found, to unlocking everything he said, or did, and getting the most out of it. Along with taking it lightly. Not very many of us get to be a Maharishi, or a Robin Williams, or a Lauren Bacall, or any of these great public figures that help to shape our lives, by living theirs. It is not in my DNA to align myself completely with any one of them, but it would be a dreary and boring world, without them. As for the rajas, I think being one is a real mind blower - Maharishi deliberately made it so, including the uniforms. Line in the sand, and all that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : When the whole raja thing came about, people came up to me on more than one occasion and asked what it was like to be the brother of a raja. My reply was that it's exactly like not being the brother of a raja, except now people come up to me and ask what it's like to be the brother of a raja. I was tempted to have a t-shirt printed with, "My brother became a raja, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt." I am sure you have taken some indirect, and perhaps direct, flak about this Raja business. And because I like you (even though I don't really know you) I always am aware that when I make a comment about Rajas that your brother is one and it makes me feel just a teeny bit guilty. However, the Raja concept is one I have a hard time wrapping my proverbial head around because: A) Their wardrobe is preposterous B) There don't appear to be any female Rajas (maybe they declined the option, seeing as the wardrobe is not good). C) The idea of this hierarchical monarchy business just seems so strange and elitist and transparent since it's based on monetary contributions. D) I'm jealous and really want to wear a white robe emblazoned with gold embroidery. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : How you know? Have you bitten one to check and see if its gold?Gold or tin, they'll both bend between a set of teeth. The higher the gold content, the softer it is.I'm thinking these guys actually wanted to be Pope but had to settle for Raja instead. ________________________________ From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 5:37 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Relating to spiritual teachers (was Re: 8/12&13/14-Maharishi...) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : You know good and well those are solid gold - the rajas wouldn't be caught dead in a tin hat.Trust me, they're tin. ________________________________ From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:08 AMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Relating to spiritual teachers (was Re: 8/12&13/14-Maharishi...) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> I sat in on a movement meeting once, and the person speaking was giving out instructions on how to behave around the movement rajas... I can only hope that the instructions contained a segment on how to keep from breaking out into uncontrollable laughter when you see them truckin' along to the sound of bagpipe music, wearing their robes and crowns. For once I agree with you, it is about as phony and silly as it gets. And they all look so serious, as if those cheap tin crowns are indicative anything other than bad headgear.