---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
you just finished reminiscing about your own Golden Years of TM
>
On 8/21/2014 1:37 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
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You are funny. You were originally referring to my "golden years" as
my senior years and now you have changed the context and meaning to
refer to the golden age of TM that I was talking about. I have to
watch you, you're slippery like that.
>
It looks like he tried to use the /straw man argument/ on you. For those
unfamiliar with the term, a straw man is a common type of argument that
someone brings out to intentionally misrepresent the original topic of
the debate.
If two people are arguing and one person is losing the debate, they may
attempt to change what the argument was about in the first place. "The
logic is that, if the person can't win the argument on his or her own
merits while discussing the original topic, perhaps they would have
better luck by changing the topic being talked about altogether."
>
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:06 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/21-Maharishi: We are bound by the
non-awareness of the Unbounded not by material possessions
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
You are wearing soma tinted glasses - read Call No Man Master - that
lady chronicles Marshy's descent into greed in the 1960s. Keep your
illusions tho, I am sure they will make your golden years very cozy.
You are a man of extremes, MJ. I am about the last person here who
holds Maharishi or TM under any ideas that smack of "illusion".
Whatever "lady" you are talking about is just that, one lady with an
opinion. But because it supports your current beliefs then all other
opinions are invalid. Like I said, divorce the message from the man
and maybe you'll be able to find your way through life that doesn't
include relegating everything to either black or white. My "golden
years", if I make it there, will include many things but perhaps least
of all reminiscing about TM.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:40 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/21-Maharishi: We are bound by the
non-awareness of the Unbounded not by material possessions
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dickmays@...> wrote :
*Forwarded from: *David Hooper <davehoopermpp@...
<mailto:davehoopermpp@...>>
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**8/21/14-Maharishi: We are bound by the non-awareness of the
Unbounded not by material possessions*
QUESTION: "I understand that in the third state of consciousness
[waking] we are bound by the effects of our actions and our material
possessions. My question is: do material possessions, material
ownership, wealth, inhibit our...."
MAHARISHI: "Let me remark at this point, at this stage of your
question. We are not bound by material possessions EVER. We are bound
by the non-awareness of the Unbounded. As long as we are not aware of
the Unbounded, we are bound by EVERYTHING.
We are not bound by our material possessions. Material possessions
don't bind us. What they do is liberate us from the pangs of
unfulfilled desires. Our desire is to get this and this and this, and
then if we don't get, we feel miserable. Whatever we have, that is a
solace to us in that misery. Material possessions are not a means of
bondage. If anything they are a source of solace in our weakness. They
do not bind us. If anything, they are a source of solace, contentment,
happiness, joy, peace.
Possessions will always be a means of joyfulness. It is the
non-possessions that bind us in the craving to get them. Do you see
the point? It is something that we don't possess, that non-possession
binds us in the craving to possess it. Possessions are not a bondage.
They are a means of joy, happiness.
What is bondage? Lack of awareness of the Unbounded. That means:
ignorance, ignorance of our unbounded nature, ignorance that the Self
within is unbounded, eternal, infinite, absolute, bliss. Lack of
knowledge about this is ignorance, and this ignorance is a bondage to
us. Material possessions are never a bondage. They are a means of
happiness."
I gotta say, I haven't listened to MMY for a long, long time but this
second post in this "series" is another good one. That Maharishi guy
certainly knew a thing or two. Take what you want and leave the rest,
folks. If you can't get past despising MMY then just read the words as
if they appeared out of thin air. I think Humboldt was the place to be
in 1970. Yup, TM's Golden Age for sure. Before Vastu, before Rajas,
before the Movement's promotion of Ayurveda or the asking of large
donations or even of the Siddhis. Things were still innocent and fresh.
~"Growth of Consciousness" (Videotape) -- August 1970~
~Humboldt State University, Arcata, USA~
Jai Guru Dev
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