---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote :
If the formatting was wrong, here's what the interview responses were like from the enlightened test subjects to the question "Describe your self": L1: We ordinarily think my self as this age; this color of hair; these hobbies . . . my experience is that my Self is a lot larger than that. It's immeasurably vast. . . on a physical level. It is not just restricted to this physical environment L2: It's the ‘‘I am-ness.’’ It's my Being. There's just a channel underneath that's just underlying everything. It's my essence there and it just doesn't stop where I stop. . . by ‘‘I,’’ I mean this 5 ft. 2 person that moves around here and there L3: I look out and see this beautiful divine Intelligence. . . you could say in the sky, in the tree, but really being expressed through these things. . . and these are my Self L4: I experience myself as being without edges or content. . . beyond the universe. . . all-pervading, and being absolutely thrilled, absolutely delighted with every motion that my body makes. With everything that my eyes see, my ears hear, my nose smells. There's a delight in the sense that I am able to penetrate that. My consciousness, my intelligence pervades everything I see, feel and think L5: When I say ’’I’’ that's the Self. There's a quality that is so pervasive about the Self that I'm quite sure that the ‘‘I’’ is the same ‘‘I’’ as everyone else's ‘‘I.’’ Not in terms of what follows right after. I am tall, I am short, I am fat, I am this, I am that. But the ‘‘I’’ part. The ‘‘I am’’ part is the same ‘‘I am’’ for you and me I describe myself as L4, beginning with "absolutely". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : But CC really isn't enlightenment, it's just 'glorified ignorance' as M said. You get inner wakefulness and silence along with a deluded mind. So this paper is not about enlightened people. It's about people who have a certain degree of opening to spiritual experience, but far short of the goal. Fred's problem is he does not have access to currently used state-of-the-art equipment in the study of consciousness, and even if he did, he probably would not be allowed by the TMO to use it (fMRI for example), and he is probably under some other research restrictions as well, as he likely would be booted if he published any negative results. Fred: 'The experience of Transcendental Consciousness transcends language and provides a platform for experiencing the world more with re[s]pect to inner abstract structures and less with respect to outer, changing concrete objects. This experience of Transcendental Consciousness is not a luxury and should not be isolated to a few individuals transcending during meditation practice. Rather, the experience of Transcendental Consciousness should be available to everyone to allow them to realize their full human birthright.' He did not even mention CC in his conclusion (above) either. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Fred Travis published research on enlightened people. This review paper looks at the research: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice - Travis - 2013 - Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences - Wiley Online Library http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full Transcendental experiences during meditation practice - Travis - 2013 - Annals of the New Yor... http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full 1 Shear, J. 2006. The Experience of Meditation: Experts Introduce the Major Traditions. Princeton, NJ: The Infinity Foundation. 2 Travis, F. & J. Shear. View on onlinelibrary.wiley.com http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full Preview by Yahoo Fred is doing new research on people in CC and will be using more sophisticated EEG analysis, and possibly other measures as well. L
