On 10/3/2014 1:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Does "cosmic" consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic?
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/Non sequitur. A person has to be conscious to experience
consciousness—the having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings and
awareness. A person under anaeshesia by definition is unconsciousness./
/You are not even making any sense. Go figure./
/A definition of "cosmic" consciousness might be in order here.
According to what I've read, the most extensive study of the
characteristics of altered states of consciousness was made by
psychologist Charles Tart in the 1960s and 1970s. William James is
usually credited with popularizing the idea that human consciousness
flows like a stream. According to Richard Maurice, cosmic consciousness
is "a higher form of consciousness than that possessed by the ordinary
man."
Bucke distinguished between three types of consciousness: Simple
Consciousness, awareness of the body, possessed by many animals; Self
Consciousness, awareness of being aware, possessed only by humans; and
Cosmic Consciousness, awareness of the life and order of the universe,
possessed only by humans who are enlightened. /
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I'm guessing not. The main worry about this research is that the
existence of different attentional states somehow implies that the
cosmology as presented by Marshy and his vedic tradition is correct.
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/My guess is that any scientific research concerning altered states of
consciousness that you might report on FFL is biased. There's no"Marshy"
mentioned in the "Vedic" tradition.//
Bias: prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group
compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
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By cosmology I mean that consciousness is some sort of unified field
that is beyond us
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/There is no evidence that cosmology that is consciousness is a united
field that is beyond us.//Scientists want to find an activity that has a
neural correlate that is part of the brain or some kind of global
pattern of brain activity. If found, there should be a predictive of
conscious awareness and would be demonstrated with brain imaging
techniques, such as EEG and fMRI./
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reachable by us as a kind of method of gaining insight into the
workings of physics.
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/For TMers, the most thorough account of the spiritual approach may be
Ken Wilber's book The Spectrum of Consciousness. Wilber compares western
and eastern ways of thinking about the mind and consciousness. According
to Wilber, consciousness is a spectrum. Ordinary awareness is at one
end, and more profound types of awareness are found at higher levels. /
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I don't think it is at all.
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The only way humans can know anything is through consciousness - cosmic
consciousness implies transcendental knowledge; knowledge that is beyond
the sensible.
/Works cited:/
Wiber, Ken (2002). The Spectrum of Consciousness.
Charles Tart (2001). "Ch. 2: The components of consciousness". States of
Consciousness.
Bucke, Richard Maurice (2009). Cosmic Consciousness: A Study in the
Evolution of the Human Mind.
