---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote :

 In order for perception to be perception, there must be a physical nervous 
system. 

 Even for universal consciousness to be "aware of" things (even of Itself), 
there must be structure --some kind of physiology, even if it is "made of" 
Universal Consciousness with no defining characteristics besides being 
Universal Consciousness.
  
 At least we now know it's nothing to do with physics. I expect to see some 
unified field charts in the bin next time I walk past the TM centre.
 

 Recall though, that Maharishi's words were that "wholeness of life" comes to 
be appreciated when the nervous system "takes on a certain form" (from memory).
 

 The wholeness of life (brahm) exists whether we appreciate it or not.
 

 Our appreciation of this wholeness without duality is _samadhi_ and _samadhi_ 
can occur *because* our nervous system has taken on a certain form (supporting 
PC or CC or GC or UC, depending).
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <seerdope@...> wrote :

 

 Mac said: 
 "Just as it says in the Gita, about pure consciousness being unable to be 
influenced or destroyed, yes, the witness of pure awareness, continues, through 
any permutation of awareness the mind is in - sleep, dreaming, intoxicated, 
awake...."
 

 "BINGO!!! Yes, it is our eternal self, that lives beyond time and space."

 

 What is the role of the brain in Samadhi and higher states? Sparaig recently 
quoted MMY:          
  
 "Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has 
its own level of physiology which can be measured. … Everything is physical. 
Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain."
 

 This implies or opens the door to a model that Samadhi and higher states are 
achieved via neuroplasticity of the brain -- "culturing" and "refining" it in 
ways as to enable Samadhi, eventually on permanent basis. That is, the brain is 
"optimized" via new neural connections, long-term potentiation (persistent 
increase in synaptic strength following high-frequency stimulation of a 
chemical synapse) across existing neural pathways, changes in activation 
potential of long cascades of neurons, modification of mix, availability and 
persistence of neurotransmitters (NT), changes in NT receptors, etc. Which is a 
fascinating prospect.    
 

 And might imply a genetic propensity towards Samadhi in some populations or 
families relative to others. That is, while everyone could culture Samadhi via 
systematic neuroplasticity methods, some may have a genetic head start -- the 
brain is already has some requisite pre-wiring.  
 

 However, if Samadhi is brain dependent, then established Samadhi would not be 
sustained upon death of the body.  And may not persevere with large changes to 
brain chemistry or structural changes from accidents or disease such as 
Alzheimers. 
 

 And cessation of Samadhi at death would be inconsistent with significant 
portions of traditional literature, which in turn would then tend to place all 
statements in traditional literature in question.
 

 On the other hand, if Samadhi is not brain dependent, then what are 
physiological / brain research on meditation / yoga measuring? And why would 
the body or brain matter in modalities to culture Samadhi?  
 

 These questions keep me awake at night.
 





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